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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Package VS. Nuc Challenge

    Keep it up Kamon. I'm glad there is someone in my area making videos and sharing them. Shared information is always helpful. I have watched your series so far and I never got the impression you were trying to "prove" any outcome. I would be interested in one of your queens to add to my genetics. Good luck and keep sharing the knowledge.
    Andy

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  3. #22
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    Thanks Andy!
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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    https://youtu.be/YVmezHFIu5Y Well on the supersedure colony we decided to split and increase our odds.
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

  5. #24
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    Feeding, marking queens, fixing misdrawn foundation. The bees are really taking off. https://youtu.be/1GLRwlZ-qSQ
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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    Kamon,

    I found your channel last night and binge watched it, stayed up way past what could be called a totally insane time to go to bed. I never made the connection that was you until I saw this thread just now. I will be looking for the rest of the series.
    Zone 6B

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    Thanks jconnolly. Sorry for keeping you up! This Beekeeping addiction keeps me up at night and gets me up early in the morning!
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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    Well we started off with 3 commercial packages and 2 of our nucs. Our 2 nucs we have split into powerful young colonies so now we have 7. Unfortunately the packages have been a little lackluster. One going queenless, one that couldn't grow the colony past about 8 frames due to a spotty pattern and the last one that is doing pretty good. We requeened the 2 poor packages with our own queens and gave them brood from the nucs to balance the colonies back out so that they would accept the queens better and start building faster.

    We now have 7 hives where we had 5 and who knows we might split again.

    It is easy when your new splits turn out like these 2. https://youtu.be/3_dl88Y29uw

    Beekeeping is a science. Great Queens, Dead Mites, and Good Nutrition.
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

  9. #28
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    Default Re: Package VS. Nuc Challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Tennessee's Bees LLC View Post
    3 packages vs 2 local (our) made nucs. It is time for some beekeeping myth busting. Our goal is to prove that it is not all about localized stock, but just as importantly, good beekeeping...



    Quote Originally Posted by Tennessee's Bees LLC View Post
    ...The stock we raise ourselves has nearly always been head and shoulders above what I have purchased (including those TF queens) I believe it is due to strict selection and most importantly good mating. ... The PROBLEM is finding a source for excellent queens outside your own beeyard. Very hard to find.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tennessee's Bees LLC View Post
    Well we started off with 3 commercial packages and 2 of our nucs. Our 2 nucs we have split into powerful young colonies so now we have 7. Unfortunately the packages have been a little lackluster. One going queenless, one that couldn't grow the colony past about 8 frames due to a spotty pattern and the last one that is doing pretty good. We requeened the 2 poor packages with our own queens and gave them brood from the nucs to balance the colonies back out so that they would accept the queens better and start building faster.

    We now have 7 hives where we had 5 and who knows we might split again.

    Beekeeping is a science. Great Queens, Dead Mites, and Good Nutrition.
    I think your original goal was stated incorrectly. You implied that any given package is as good as your selected stock (not necessarily "local", but try defining that well). Based on your follow-on quotes and the outcome so far, it appears you believe and have proven otherwise.

    I agree that good stock is hard to come by. It takes an attentive beekeeper to understand what they have in the first place. Colonies respond differently to various management strategies, too. We have such a mixed bag available that it is difficult to sort out. To further mess with us, a given breeder's stock changes over time and some with a good reputation may not currently have bees with the same or better traits.

    I also agree there is a whole lot of rubbish around; beekeeping and otherwise. Much of it is based on feelings and a desire for something to be true. It is all presented as fact in this Internet world, even when it is contrary to common sense. Additionally, the standard recommendation of a good club and/or mentor is very hard to find. One must jump in and start swimming before they can begin to tell the garbage from the good.

    So, where do we go? As you are doing, we keep working with what we have; always striving to learn and improve the stock. Setbacks from uncontrollable things like poor purchased queens, unexpected weather, and even AHB drone mating (for some of us) happen; we deal with it and move on.

    Keep up the good work; it is always interesting.

  10. #29
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    You are righ, these packages have really looked terrible. I have had a few packages in the past that were fantastic though. I think the quality of the queen is the most important part. Clean bees help also. The only way to guarantee great stock is to raise your own and that is what we do. Beekeeping is not easy it is alot of work!
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

  11. #30
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    We started off with 3 packages and 2 of our own nucs. Now we have 7 colonies thanks to our nucs that produced alot of brood and drew great combs. The nucs also gave 4 frames of brood to the packages thruout the season as 2 of the packages dealt with poor queen quality and or was queenless Those hives now have our queens and even with all the help we gave them we still need to manipulate one of them for proper wintering. Over all with proper bee husbandry the bees are looking great and sustainable. Ready for next seasons honey making https://youtu.be/_FsYKW0naZU
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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