These are the ones I got and they work incredibly well. I’ve in the past had some hives where Id be covered is pist stinging bees and not get one sting. I can say they are battle tested and priced good compared to the others and they hold up well. Smoke and the nitrile gloves may work for the gentle bees of the north but go through one hive with a some African genetics and you’ll quickly learn smoke and thin gloves aren’t going to help you. I’m not trying to enter that debate anyway. The op asked for sting proof gloves and I can honestly say these are good ones.