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    Default replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Looking for suggestions, I want to replace customary inner cover with something like a canvas or plastic.
    Any suggestions of what and where to purchase
    Thanks

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    I used a propolis trap last year on one of my hives instead of an inner cover.

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    This year, I am using the silver bubble wrap Reflectex as an inner cover. Sam Comfort showed this at one of the national bee meetings I attended last year. Looks promising.

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthiesbees View Post
    This year, I am using the silver bubble wrap Reflectex as an inner cover. Sam Comfort showed this at one of the national bee meetings I attended last year. Looks promising.
    I find it works very well. I also use this for hive wraps and blocking off honey supers when doing OA vaporizations.
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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Four mill plastic sheeting works, but it is awkward to handle in a wind. The sheeting with an edge taped to foam insulation board is easier to handle. You might try checking with awning or boat cover/top manufacturing shops for canvas materials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthiesbees View Post
    This year, I am using the silver bubble wrap Reflectex as an inner cover. Sam Comfort showed this at one of the national bee meetings I attended last year. Looks promising.
    im trying the same this year with a few hives.
    Going to try a few single brood chamber hives too...keeps the hobby fun changing things up even if they are a failure.

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    I cut old chicken feed bags to fit, or use old political sign. Both free and you can cut a hole in them for a feeder then add an empty box on top.

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    The Honeybee Research Center at UoG uses #8 Duck canvas. Cut it just barely larger than the outside of the box.

    https://youtu.be/Emlvx53iOZ4?list=PL...czJXY1Gs&t=149

    I have been experimenting with a plexiglass inner cover on one hive after seeing them used on European hives on YouTube.
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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by rick54 View Post
    so is this $10 for 1 yard by 6 feet? Im trying to figure out how much to order.
    If those measurements are right then you could get 6 inner covers for $10 and thats super cheap!

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    What are the advantages to using fabric? I have seen it used (youtube) and my initial reaction was that it would be a pain to deal with. J

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Big Duck Canvas is located near me. I dropped by their facility and picked up three yards of #8 Duck canvas to experiment with.

    https://www.bigduckcanvas.com/number...-yard-natural/

    $8.15/yd plus tax. 60" wide. (The usable width is actually 61".) So I can get three across cutting the inner covers a tad longer than the box dimension.

    My first use for this canvas inner cover will be on a double 4-frame nuc. The width of the two boxes is approximately the same as a 10-frame box so my 10-frame telescoping cover works with this set-up. I am hoping the canvas will make a good seal at the tops of the boxes and cut off communication between the two boxes.

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by aran View Post
    so is this $10 for 1 yard by 6 feet? Im trying to figure out how much to order.
    If those measurements are right then you could get 6 inner covers for $10 and thats super cheap!
    Hobby Lobby and Walmart also have duck canvas - probably also your local fabric store.
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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    It would make upper entrances impossible.

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by ericweller View Post
    It would make upper entrances impossible.
    You could add a shim with a upper entrance. I have some 3/4" shims (for patties, ect) and it would be easy to add an entrance to one.

    I have 1/8" hardware cloth and a chunk on canvas on the top of my hives. This is what I have on the bottom of my quilt boxes, and the bees have sort of been covering it with propolis, but it has survived.

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    I use 250 micron poly sheet on my bait hives and mini-nucs ... and when I run out of rigid ones. Works well and costs about $0.30 each.
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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    I've used old polytunnel (hoop tunnel ?) polythene sheeting in the past, and haven't been over-impressed with it - but - my criticisms have been that, a) it's got a mind of it's own in even a gentle breeze (however, this problem does cure itself after some propolis has been attached; and b) that it's not obvious how to install an overhead (inverted-jar) feeder without risking the meniscus coming into contact with the frame top-bars and thus causing a flood.

    However, the last potential problem can very easily be cured by spacing the plastic away from the top bars, as seen in the following video (posted by Greg) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlq3n2cJKBk such that an inverted jar feeder could easily be supported from underneath by a pair of thin battens.

    Although I'm quite content to use rigid boards, having now seen the use of those spacing battens, if I should ever have the need for a quick 'fix', I'll now very happily reach for a roll of plastic sheet.
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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by ericweller View Post
    It would make upper entrances impossible.
    simply drill a hole in the top brood box.

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    Default Re: replacing inner cover with a fabric or plastic

    Quote Originally Posted by fatshark View Post
    I use 250 micron poly sheet on my bait hives and mini-nucs ... and when I run out of rigid ones. Works well and costs about $0.30 each.
    i couldnt find this on ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JConnolly View Post
    The Honeybee Research Center at UoG uses #8 Duck canvas. Cut it just barely larger than the outside of the box.

    https://youtu.be/Emlvx53iOZ4?list=PL...czJXY1Gs&t=149
    Thanks for this. I have seen a number of their videos but not this one. I wondered about the material as well.
    PS For those wondering about upper entrances….watch the first couple of minute of the video.
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