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    Quote Originally Posted by genusCastor View Post
    How do you place the LGO?
    This is how I bait mine using lemongrass oil…..
    I think you will only need to watch the first 4 minutes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx8FHGjTKzE&t=142s
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregV View Post
    Please just search and study - BS, youtube, google.
    Awesome. Thanks for the tip.

    :-|

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    Quote Originally Posted by beemandan View Post
    This is how I bait mine using lemongrass oil…..
    I think you will only need to watch the first 4 minutes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx8FHGjTKzE&t=142s
    I've seen (read) others who say the oil needs to be in some kind of time release container, it's too strong otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genusCastor View Post
    Awesome. Thanks for the tip.

    :-|

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    That's what I have been doing.
    Anymore I got nothing new to share.
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    Great video, Dan. I appreciate you posting. I was glad to see I'm not the only one who commandeers my kid's treehouse- got some good ideas for treehouse updates too .
    Last edited by Litsinger; 04-23-2019 at 01:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genusCastor View Post
    I've seen (read) others who say the oil needs to be in some kind of time release container, it's too strong otherwise.
    I think that there is a wide range or experiences. I’ve been doing it the same way for several years now. I have baited ‘traps’ and had swarms move in a matter of an hour. I have ‘trapped’ four swarms this way, so far this season. Ten last year. Eighteen the year before. Why this seems to work for me and not for others? I have no idea.
    I don’t claim that my way is the only or best way. Try it any way you choose or better yet, try it a number of ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverderwent View Post
    Tennessee, you clearly know your stuff. Good job. What time of day do you usually move swarm traps?
    Thanks! I like to move them in the early morning. Late evening works also. Smoke them in, seal them up, and move. The method I use is simple and I truly believe it is not about the perfect factors to bring a hive into a trap. Just give them a decent space with old bee smell and if you have a lure so much the better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litsinger View Post
    Great video, Dan. I appreciate you posting. I was glad to see I'm not the only one who commandeers my kid's treehouse- got some good ideas for treehouse updates too 😉.
    I'm actually considering building a dedicated trap platform.
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    Here's the swarm we caught at my job site.

    After only a couple of days the bees already built a wild frame of comb with honey, pollen and eggs and then also filled 4 deep frames. I suppose this tells me there is a significant flow in this part of the city...

    BTW, I added 5 new frames with plastic foundation...then stored them in a deep with an open screen bottom board. I am hoping they will survive until I get home. I am leaving them in my truck in the shade until around 3 pm, then I will race home.

    Ok, what's my odds? Will this swarm survive? I watered them down with sugar water at 6 am this morning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soarwitheagles View Post
    Here's the swarm we caught at my job site.

    After only a couple of days the bees already built a wild frame of comb with honey, pollen and eggs and then also filled 4 deep frames. I suppose this tells me there is a significant flow in this part of the city...

    BTW, I added 5 new frames with plastic foundation...

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    Soars,

    Good-looking swarm.

    What is the water bottle for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clong View Post
    Soars,

    Good-looking swarm.

    What is the water bottle for?
    clong,

    The water bottle was filled with sugar syrup and I used it to spray the swarm bees before transferring them from the trap to the deep box. Then, by accident, I accidentally dropped the water bottle into the swarm trap. My bad!
    Last edited by soarwitheagles; 04-25-2019 at 11:31 AM.

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    Found an interesting article in the "Beekeepers Quarterly" about huge swarm trapping success rates - see pages 44-45.

    - having a huge number of boxes filled with good, empty and clean combs (GV: all stacked in one place);
    - that the empty combs had very recently been on normal colonies for a day (GV: the empty combs have been primed by inserting them into the active beehives for one day for cleaning)
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...-26_in_English


    Practically for me, this means:
    - always having traps around active bee hives (active bee hives amount to a very good attractant not to be used for just that);
    - priming the empty combs immediately before inserting them into the traps - easy to do and so why not;
    typically by now, empty combs have been bee-less for several months and indeed may have lost most of the attractive smells
    Last edited by GregV; 04-29-2019 at 11:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregV View Post
    Found an interesting article in the "Beekeepers Quarterly" about huge swarm trapping success rates - see pages 44-45.
    Interesting article, GregV. I sincerely appreciate you posting it.

    I had never even considered putting new boxes/frames on existing colonies to help give them the 'lived-in' smell. Makes perfect sense!

    Thanks again for sharing. Have a great evening.

    Russ

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    OK, I suppose I am officially in as well.
    Dandelion is in bloom full-bore.
    Local drones are in making.

    Most all my traps are already in place (left there since the last season).
    But need checked, cleaned, combs fixed/added as needed, fresh LGO hanged up.
    I target for about 7 locations this year (which is the target # of my bee yards).
    May set even 2-3 traps at few tested spots where I landed swarms before.

    Pretty darn sure this trap will land a swarm this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregV View Post
    OK, I suppose I am officially in as well.
    Good luck to you, GregV!

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    Caught first swarm this year in a 5 frame trap that was baited with SC in western Kentucky. Softball size or a little more.

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    Set another one - this is a per-annual catcher trap in the per-annual swarm landing strip.
    But really, this is too early for us.
    I am just getting ahead of my time a bit (you, southern boys are at fault).
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    Quote Originally Posted by robber View Post
    Caught first swarm this year in a 5 frame trap that was baited with SC in western Kentucky. Softball size or a little more.
    Way to go, Robber! Free bees...

    Best of success to you this year.

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregV View Post
    Set another one - this is a per-annual catcher trap in the per-annual swarm landing strip.
    But really, this is too early for us.
    I am just getting ahead of my time a bit (you, southern boys are at fault).
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    Now that is a cool swarm trap set-up... never too early right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litsinger View Post
    Now that is a cool swarm trap set-up... never too early right
    Never to early for few reasons, indeed.

    1)With all the packages dumped on us over the last 1-2 months - few of these will abscond and will be looking for homes.
    Same old.

    2)The local weather such that we have 2-3 days of summer warmth (with good pollen/nectar intake - strong growth simulators).
    Then we have 2-3 days of cold rain and near freezing nights (swarm stimulation from strong colonies - excessive expansion by a box is bad due to intermittent cold; but undersized hives are also bad).
    I would not be surprised of swarming pressure building up there and here.
    Same old.

    In general, it is too early.
    But since the traps burn no gasoline, use no electricity, and don't eat - set them out I say.
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