Any one have any experience with these?
Basically split deep- queen right one side, queen less the other and or divided with an QE and cloake board.
I ran a nuc QL free flying starter finisher last season and was thinking about a 5 over 5 cloake for this year.
However the lack of lifting and what seems to be faster easier management of this set up is intriguing and I can't realy use more then 10 cells a week
Oldtimer had a post including a photo (I think) of a queen excluder bent at a 90 Deg. and slotted into a deep box. It made queen right and queenless sections in a deep hive body.
Grafting one bar/week into a single divided into a breeder side and a free flying starter-finisher side will yield about 13 excellent cells/week. Every two weeks the sides are switched.
and from Eva Crane
caption reads "AUSTRALIA, 1967, NEW SOUTH WALES, Queen rearing hive. L. space for 8-frame colony (frame of young brood next to queen excluder). R. space for 4 frames newly-capped brood; queen cells; newly-capped brood; pollen and honey."
i run a "breeder timing box" similar to the photo. Three combs on one side of the excluder, and six on the other. The queen goes on the three comb side. By moving a brood comb from her side to the far side of the excluder, and adding a new dark worker comb on her side, and against the excluder. I can time the age of the larvae for grafting. One change I would make to the box in the photo. The entrance shouldn't be on the queen's side of the excluder.
Some years ago I made a 3-partition Timing Box after seeing a FatBeeMan video about them ... but never warmed to using it in practice - so I made a couple of 'Vertical Cloake Boards' from 1.5mm rigid polycarbonate to slip in-between the divider/QX's and the adjacent frames.
Tried that for 2 seasons, then finally gave up playing with it.
In my opinion, nothing beats a vertical Cloake Board arrangement - and for small numbers, I much prefer to use a divided Cloake Board with two 5-frame nuc boxes over, which allows me to use a relatively small colony below the board, with just one functional nuc box above it - with as few as 8 q/cells being drawn at a time.
I've recently made a nuc-sized Cloake Board (AND a Hopkins case !) to fit over a 5-over-5 stack, as I'm becoming more and more enthusiastic about the 'nuc stack' format.
LJ
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