Moving from Kansas to South Carolina
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  1. #1
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    Default Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    We are looking at moving from Kansas to Bluffton South Carolina. I have a few questions.

    1. With the SC laws about inspections, is it worth trying to move my handfull of hives and used equipment, or should i just start over?

    2. With SC being much warmer than KS in the winter do ythey have pollen sorces all year long or do you have to feed?

    3. Also any pointers in long distance moving would be helpful

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    First, a quick disclaimer is that I'm just finishing my second season.

    I'm far from an expert beekeeper but I have done a ton of reading in the last couple of years. There is no inspection of beehives that I know of. Maybe there is some requirement for bees brought in from out of state, but I've never heard of it.

    We have pollen all year round. There is a good spring flow but we get very little from the fall...maybe a small flow if you work cotton. I'm in Lexington County; the low state could be different.

    This is a good article about the Midlands of SC. If you Google the author, you'll find a few other good articles.

    https://www.beeculture.com/beekeepin...tton-soybeans/

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    -YES... if you move bees to SC on comb an inspection is required. You contact is listed here https://www.clemson.edu/public/regul...bee/index.html You will reach Brad quicker by email than office phone because he is always in the field
    - No we do not register hives in SC and there is no required state inspection with keepers of the state of SC
    -We normally have pollen all year but that does not mean it is not monofloral and could be lacking in nutrition particularly in the fall
    -Our season are short.. April- early June flow... and a summer dearth with a minor fall trickle in most parts of SC
    -If you know nothing of SHB learn now, we can be eat up with SHB. SHB will inhibit feeding pollen sub

    The Bluffton flows will be a little different (in particular palmettos) than my Midstate (edge of Piedmont) flows. I am sure you already know you will love the South Carolina Coastal Area....


    SECTION 46-37-10. Certificate of inspection required; exception.

    All bees and fixtures shipped or moved into this State must be accompanied by a certificate of inspection signed by the state entomologist, state apiary inspector, or corresponding official of the state or country from which the bees are shipped or moved. The certificate must certify to the apparent freedom of the bees and fixtures from contagious and infectious diseases and must be based upon an actual inspection of the bees and fixtures themselves within sixty days preceding the date of shipment. An entry permit from the Department of Plant Industry, Clemson University, is required before moving bees or fixtures into this State.
    sc-bee

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    Good to know, I stand corrected.

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Emict326 View Post
    We are looking at moving from Kansas to Bluffton South Carolina. I have a few questions.

    1. With the SC laws about inspections, is it worth trying to move my handfull of hives and used equipment, or should i just start over?

    2. With SC being much warmer than KS in the winter do ythey have pollen sorces all year long or do you have to feed?

    3. Also any pointers in long distance moving would be helpful
    So....you're trading tornadoes for hurricanes, huh?

    If I were moving that far, I think I'd just start over. Moving is a hassle to begin with....and moving live bees will just add to the stress.

    Good luck if you decide to go.

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    I think there is one state that might be on your route (Alabama, IIRC) that doesn't permit even the transit of bees on combs through the state. Not sure if your planned route would take you through AL at all.

    But I am sentimental, so I would figure out how to take my bees with me. It might take some planning, though, as far as the timing of the trip. I wouldn't, for instance, attempt it at the height of the summer. And I would try to do it when the hives were naturally on the smaller side, so late this winter, or next fall after the honey has been pulled. Perhaps you could leave them in KS under someone's care and then return (with a second driver) and load them and drive straight back to SC.

    Nancy

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    I had read the laws of South Carolina comming into the state they sound like a pain in the ass, but would protect the state.

    I had not looked into driving though other states, but good to know about alabama.

    And as for small hive beetles they are what keep me up at night. I hate those things.

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Emict326 View Post
    I had read the laws of South Carolina comming into the state they sound like a pain in the ass, but would protect the state.

    I had not looked into driving though other states, but good to know about alabama.

    And as for small hive beetles they are what keep me up at night. I hate those things.
    Really not a PIA to get into SC. Just a certificate needed from your state where you got a clean bill of health from your state. If it were that much of a PIA there would not be all these NORTHERN folks wintering their bees in SC. The one too enter ain't much on the SC side.... the proof is on your side (Ks)
    sc-bee

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    I just moved from Virginia to Oklahoma in the last 10 days. I screen the entrance with #8 hardware cloth and strapped the boxes tight. During the drive one hive, the boxes shifted and the bees were getting out. I shifted the boxes back together and closed the gap as much as possible while taking 4 stings to the hands. I would suggest that you brace the hives so the don't shift. I moved 3 hives and 1 nuc all mediums 3 boxes tall. All seam to being good so far.
    Good luck on your move.

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    All bees and fixtures shipped or moved into this State must be accompanied by a certificate of inspection signed by the state entomologist, state apiary inspector, or corresponding official of the state or country from which the bees are shipped or moved
    off topic -

    What do you do if you do not have any state officials for beekeeping? I don't think Colorado has any one in one of these positions.

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by dr4ngas View Post
    I just moved from Virginia to Oklahoma in the last 10 days. I screen the entrance with #8 hardware cloth and strapped the boxes tight. During the drive one hive, the boxes shifted and the bees were getting out. I shifted the boxes back together and closed the gap as much as possible while taking 4 stings to the hands. I would suggest that you brace the hives so the don't shift. I moved 3 hives and 1 nuc all mediums 3 boxes tall. All seam to being good so far.
    Good luck on your move.
    Use two ratchet straps per hive, one near front and one near rear. Snug them up and supers cannot shift.

    If you move the hives in warmer ambient temps, excess heat build up in the hive is a problem. An inner cover with most of the area covered by screen will exhaust the heat. Remove the entrance reducer and staple screen on near dark to secure the bees. Put the hive next the back window of the truck to prevent excess wind or better in a canopy or SUV. Move on a cool day or through the nite, is preferable, if you don't have air conditioning or shading.

    If I move in the day time, and don't have a canopy or SUV, I shade the hive with a piece of plywood secured on with a couple of 2 x 2s for spacers above the screened inner cover.
    Zone 3b. If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got!

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    Welcome and what he said....

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    I have long lang styles that i move them in, i made them for easy leg removal so they set flat in a truck, and the wholes have vented system that goes in them.

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    Default Re: Moving from Kansas to South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Emict326 View Post
    We are looking at moving from Kansas to Bluffton South Carolina. I have a few questions.

    1. With the SC laws about inspections, is it worth trying to move my handfull of hives and used equipment, or should i just start over?

    2. With SC being much warmer than KS in the winter do ythey have pollen sorces all year long or do you have to feed?

    3. Also any pointers in long distance moving would be helpful

    Hi, welcome to SC!
    All the replies are right on. Dealing with SC Dept of AG for apiculture is very easy and pleasant.

    If I were you, I'd sell my stuff in KS and start up fresh in SC. There are plenty of good beekeepers in your new area and also over the border in GA too.

    There is a clustering period in SC and if colonies do not have enough stores they'll need feed or they'd starve: that depends on how your year went.

    If you can leave a nice full box of honey over the broodnest, you'll be all set.

    There's pollen for most of the year. We had pollen coming in on Christmas day last year and we're a zone colder then Bluffton, and 150 miles West.

    Hive beetle is a management issue: if your colonies are strong, they'll do okay with hive beetle. If they are weak, the beetle will take right over.

    Keeping your colonies strong is key: especially after a swarm.

    If you have any questions in detail about keeping bees in SC, feel free to give me a holler. Phone number is on the contact page of the website below.

    You'll be in very nice country. Get ready for some real warm days...

    Adam
    https://vpqueenbees.com

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