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  1. #41
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    I think you nailed it. Payroll or a creditor.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grozzie2 View Post
    With this event happing suddenly and abruptly on a Friday morning, is a clear telegraph to anybody that runs a business. This event was triggered by a funding shortfall when bi-weekly payroll obligations have become due.
    Just curious - how do we know those details?
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    Anyone know of any Brushy Mountain distributors that may have some inventory left?
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    Try Sue at Harvard Eggs, Feed & Produce 17205 McGuire Rd Harvard, IL 60033. Phone: 815-943-4837. Email: [email protected]

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    It all sounds like a BS rumor to me. If you had problems with back orders, it's probably because you ordered it too late in the season. I got back ordered once, but I think it was in like May when I had an emergency equipment shortage. That to me suggests they were selling out, and doing well enough. Any serious beekeeper would start ordering in Jan/Feb. I've ordered thousands of dollars of equipment from them with no problems.

    The brand name is too valuable to just evaporate in my opinion. Somebody would buy it.

    The company has made no public statements confirming this rumor. It would be highly unusual for an enterprise like BM to just disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genusCastor View Post
    I'm new to beekeeping (2018 is my first year), but I made my first order last spring from Mann Lake and thought they were slow and unresponsive. So for my second order, this fall, I used Dadant and had a completely different (positive) experience.

    Surprised to read this discussion about bee keeping supplies and no mention of Dadant?

    - djb
    I'm new too. I placed three orders in three months. Each time I got three emails from them. 1st said we got your order, if you need to change it do it now. 2nd said this is your order and it has shipped. 3rd was tracking info and the expected delivery date. I did create an account right away.

    If I had realized that Dadant was an IL company I would have looked closer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franz Bleffert View Post
    It all sounds like a BS rumor to me.
    Sadly, it is true. If you doubt....try to order something....either online or by phone.
    Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. - Emerson

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    Aren't they the Co. that paid to get OA registered as a pesticide? I understand that is a very expensive process. Maybe the expected revenue did not materialize making it impossible recoup their investment.

    Just a thought.

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    Now where will we obtain LEGAL Oxalic acid? I’m sure some enterprising company will pick it up. But in the meantime, those who care about using the legal Oxalic acid can buy it from the other companies that still have a supply they bought from BM.
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    True. All the info is on Bee-l, posted by James Fisher: “Brushy Mountain has pulled the plug on its website, and was selling off
    in-stock inventory at steep discounts over the past few weeks to other
    dealers. The statement that only the former Ruhl Bee Supply store in OR was
    closing seems to have been an understatement.

    Curiouser and curiouser, Brushy has also been disappeared from the list of
    "our companies" and even "former companies" at Haldey Capital, the "private
    equity" firm that bought the business from Steve and Sandy Forrest in 2014.

    It seems strange that Hadley did not attempt to find a buyer for the running
    business, or perhaps they could not find one despite their search. Not sure
    what kind of value one would get for the capital equipment, given how
    "dedicated" the machines are.

    But for those keeping score, that makes one company driven into a ditch to
    the point of needing new owners, and now the smoking ruins of a
    significant manufacturer and catalog house, both purely failures of
    management rather than due to any other factor.”
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    It's not really a big shocker, I mean in the grand scheme of things it's not a big market and it looks to be very competitive. Just like beekeeping, if it's not owned and operated by a very tight hardworking family or at least a very determined owner in which the bees are their life then it's very likely not going to prosper. Theres not enough $ to go around with that many hands in the cookie jar. I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule but this is a not an industry with endless possibilities.

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    we have local Texas beeks ordering their stuff off Amazon, don't count that out. Amazon kills quality part of the time but they really kill online store operations. I am sad I didn't buy that resource hive I was eying a couple of months ago. Their quality is top notch
    Stuck in Texas. Learning Permaculture in drought, flood and strange weather. The bees are still alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloverdale View Post
    True. All the info is on Bee-l, posted by James Fisher: “Brushy Mountain has pulled the plug on its website, and was selling off
    in-stock inventory at steep discounts over the past few weeks to other
    dealers."
    Thanks for the additional info Cloverdale. What is "Bee-I"???
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    Search BEE-L I take my hat off when I enter and just listen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-spice View Post
    Thanks for the additional info Cloverdale. What is "Bee-I"???
    Bee-l, as in a lower case L. It is an email “forum” so to speak, with most people lurking, gleaning info contributed by some very smart educated people, and some conversations are way over my head. They have archives of years of beekeeping information. Deb
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    Quote Originally Posted by crofter View Post
    Search BEE-L I take my hat off when I enter and just listen!
    I curtsy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloverdale View Post
    I curtsy.
    You also contribute. Don't sell yourself short.

    Regarding BM, I contacted one of my local distributors. Looks like I will be placing a much larger order than I had anticipated. Gotta get it while there is something left to get. Starting to familiarize myself with the Mann-Lake catalogue.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    New Columbia, PA store had notice posted on front door.Brushy notice.jpg

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    Curiouser and curiouser, Brushy has also been disappeared from the list of
    "our companies" and even "former companies" at Haldey Capital, the "private
    equity" firm that bought the business from Steve and Sandy Forrest in 2014.
    Even as just a few days ago, Brushy's website suggested that the Forest family still owned Brushy, so I was surprised to see Hadley Capital listed as the true owner.

    And yes, a review of the Hadley Capital website from 4/28/18 (courtesy of Archive.org) shows this ...


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    And here is the current Hadley page:


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    Note that Brushy Mtn shows up in the 1st screenshot, but not the 2nd.
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    Soon, duplicate post
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