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    Default Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    I am going to try one or two polystyrene hives in 2019. I have been looking at them online but have not seen them in person. Just looking, the Superior Bee poly hive looks to be a copy of the Finish made Bee Box. Has anyone actually handled these both or compared them?

    Surprising is the Finnish Bee Box is cheaper than the USA made Superior Bee hives.

    Lets throw in one more, the Beemax hive. Cheaper yet. Does not have the plastic box rests the other two manufacturers do.

    How does the Polystyrene density compare on these?

    Any insight would be appreciated.

    -Tony
    Last edited by Blueflint; 10-28-2018 at 05:11 AM.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    The bee max is pretty soft unless you are a careful person, I am not and just use them for queen castles where the insulation is important. If it is cheaper after getting shipped across the pond, the superior mjust be expensive. Beaver plastic near Edmonton makes very good poly boxes but shipping is everything!

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    I use the Beemax hive top feeders, same material as the hive bodies. It is a dense styrofoam like a well made foam cooler, but it is still just styrofoam and is easily dented with a hive tool. It needs to be painted to protect from UV radiation and the bees can chew through it at the seams between the boxes or lids. Don't know if the same holds true for all the poly hives or not. I plan on using ML double mating nucs next spring. They look to be about the same quality as the Betterbee product.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    Bee Box poly 10 frame box $23.75
    Superior Bee 10 frame box $27.85

    Bee Box 10 frame deep with base and cover $59.95
    Superior Bee 10 frame deep with base and cover $64.95

    Bee Box 10 frame medium box $20.50
    Superior Bee 10 frame medium box $22.85

    Not a huge difference but I am surprised the Finnish imported boxes are cheaper. Really interested in the foam quality comparison.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    Buy one of each and do a side by side comparison. I would not discount the Beemax boxes. They may prove to be just as good as the others and at a lower cost.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    U tube on what I would think to be a great design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G03p4p4z85Y

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    The Finnish sryrofoam boxes are the best quality you can get. They have very long experience making them here.

    One more manufacturer is Honey Paw- The director Juha Nuutero is a friend of mine.
    https://www.mesi.fi/en/products/polystyrene-hives/
    https://www.mesi.fi/en/why-to-choose-honey-paw-hives/

    https://www.mesi.fi/mehilaishoitajil...et/langstroth/


    The structure in corners seems to be similar in those two.


    Video from Juhas yards, the yellow thymol bads for varroa treatments is seen between the boxes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzsjzYAFwuM
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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    Quote Originally Posted by Saltybee View Post
    U tube on what I would think to be a great design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G03p4p4z85Y

    Any Irish out there?
    That is also Bee Box made in Finland, that one is a National. Love the flared bottom edges.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    I prefer the telescoping roof/cover that Honey Paw and Maisemore uses along with the clear crown board.

    Juhani Lunden: I have read the Finnish have been using poly hives for 35 years? If there were any problems with them, you would have it figured out long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueflint View Post
    I prefer the telescoping roof/cover that Honey Paw and Maisemore uses along with the clear crown board.

    Juhani Lunden: I have read the Finnish have been using poly hives for 35 years? If there were any problems with them, you would have it figured out long ago.


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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    Blue, check out these videos from Australia: http://australianhoneybee.com.au/

    They are distributors of Paradise Boxes down under.

    Although I really, really like the 4-frame/10-frame of Honey Paw, there aren't any Honey Paw distributors in the US.


    Also, the density of Paradise and HP are the same, but Paradise has the hard plastic edges for separating boxes with the hive tool. I don't see that on the Honey Paw.
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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    I have decided to try a couple of the Paradise/Bee Box hives. Looks like I will be visiting Blue Sky sometime this winter!

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    I haven't used the others ( as there are no distributors near me that sell the others) but i have used the paradise hives for a while now. I find them easy to use and the bees like them too. we can get hot summers and cool winters but they come through well in both the normal sized hive and their nuc boxes.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    Isn't the Bush Beeman using Paradise hives now?
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    yeah i believe so.

    I think they are particularly well suited to Australian conditions. I believe there are a few commercial bee keepers changing to them as well.

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    Default Re: Superior Bee poly vs. Bee Box poly hives

    Wondering if you had any problems with the Superior hives. My experience has been problematic. first all 75 of the 6 frames mediums where under 6 1/4" high; I did not notice this until I was transferring from by wood to the poly and was smashing bees insterting frame into the second box up. I ask for a refund but was refused. Told that I should change my frames to fit the box, then they suggest I should just use the them for the bottom box. They offered to replace the 6 frame for 10 frame but I would have to pay the difference in cost and for the shipping back the for the new boxes. I explained that I need the equipment to expand my apiary. they finally agreed to exchange the mediums for 6 frame for new mediums 6 frames once the mold was remade: that took almost a year. it was suggested that I use wood shims to make up the height difference in the interim, which I did. I was assured there would be no issue exchanging the equipment once the mold issue was correct. Thinking all was going to be correct, I arranged to exchange some of the mediums for 6 frame deeps. these were 1/16 ot 1/8 shy of a standard deep but they worked. Finally the 6 frame medium were being produced again and I made arrangements to transport the box back to the company owners location. upon arrival I was told that because the boxes were assembled and some show signed of use that they would not accept them due to potential disease. I provided them with the current inspection certificate, reminded him that others had been exchanged for deeps then that in our discussion the day before that there would be no issue exchanging the defective boxes for the boxes with the correct dimension. Although they still refused to exchange I was issue a refund however they deducted for the difference in the deeps the exchanged before and now refuse to sell new boxes to me. Since that time, I have notice that certain deep boxes are being chewed down by the bee. When I weight these boxes they vary from just over 4# to just under 10#. This seems to suggest a issue controlling density in the manufacturing process. I tried calling, texting and sending letters without a response.

    Again, just wondering have you had any issues?

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