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    Default First Warre hive - slightly modified

    Here are some pics of my slightly modified Warre Hive. The purpose of this hive is mostly just for observation and not to harvest,

    3 differences are:
    Commonly available pine wood here is 35mm x 110mm, so my hive walls are a lot thicker than the standard plans.
    I have put observation windows in the front.
    The roof section does not overlap over the quilt.

    I am going to put some old wax and honey mixture in the hive to see if I can attract a swarm - I managed to do this a few weeks ago with my Langstroth.

    I havent cut the top bars yet, I will probably go with side bars with the front one being quite short - not to obstruct the view.
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    Last edited by HawkI; 09-06-2018 at 02:07 AM.

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    A few more pics, better lighting
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    Default Re: First Warre hive - slightly modified

    Pretty. You might want to build a third box, my experience was that the colony grew into three boxes pretty fast.
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    Default Re: First Warre hive - slightly modified

    Quote Originally Posted by HawkI View Post
    Commonly available pine wood here is 35mm x 110mm, so my hive walls are a lot thicker than the standard plans.
    Very nicely made.

    BTW, if you should ever decide to build any non-observation Warre hives, then the Russian 'Alpine' Hive variant might be worth considering, as their 108mm quarter-height(*) boxes would suit your supply of wood perfectly.
    LJ

    (*) I say "quarter-height" as Warre's original design was for a 400mm box height. He changed to 200mm after complaints from his assistants about their weight, and that frequently only the top half of the 400mm boxes were found to contain capped honey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by little_john View Post
    Very nicely made.

    BTW, if you should ever decide to build any non-observation Warre hives, then the Russian 'Alpine' Hive variant might be worth considering, as their 108mm quarter-height(*) boxes would suit your supply of wood perfectly.
    LJ.
    Thanks, I think I will give that crack next...

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    Finally in
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    So, after a week of putting honey out, a nice swarm has moved in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkI View Post
    So, after a week of putting honey out, a nice swarm has moved in...
    Congrats with the swarm!

    A nice pieces of work you have done; I wish I had time for that (none).

    Your top-bars are are actually exactly what I use in my deep horizontals.
    I got lots of those in rotation right now - those temp solutions that tend to just stay in place permanently and work fine just as-is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregV View Post

    Congrats with the swarm!

    A nice pieces of work you have done; I wish I had time for that (none).

    Your top-bars are are actually exactly what I use in my deep horizontals.
    I got lots of those in rotation right now - those temp solutions that tend to just stay in place permanently and work fine just as-is.
    Thanks. I'm pretty much hooked now, I'm gonna make one or two more hives this week...

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    Does anyone know how disturbed the bees get when you view them through the observation Window. I've tried to check other posts about how often to inspect a hive but that is clearly meant for the top of type hive inspection.

    So basically do the bees get disturbed, should I leave them alone for the first week or two while they settle in?
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    I have found once the box is full you have a hard time seeing anything except at night using a flash light. To many bees. Doing this you can still tell of you have capped honey on what frames and of all are drawn out ect. Any time you open the window or irritates them a little. You'll hear the hum but nothing that launches an attack or such. But then I keep sweet bees. Unless I'm doing a sugar roll i normally work them in a pair of shorts and that's it. Life is to short for nasty bees!lol BTW I have full frames in mine that I modified from Lang frames. Firm believer in sugar rolls and ox vaping at least down hear to keep bees long term.

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    Default Re: First Warre hive - slightly modified

    10 days after the swarm moved in, the bees have been building comb at quite a rate.

    One question - every morning there seems to be a fair amount of moisture on the glass(See left side). but it is gone by the end of the day. Is this something to worry about?IMG_20180928_064736.jpgIMG_20180928_064823.jpg

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    Default Re: First Warre hive - slightly modified

    two more Warre hives on their way...6.jpg

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    Two more Warren hives built and in the garden. Trying to attract two swarms.

    And one for a mate...

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    Second Warre - just had a swarm move in - quite a lot of bees in this swarm - my guess is around 1000 + bees.

    Warre 3 15 Oct new swarm.jpg

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    Default Re: First Warre hive - slightly modified

    Quote Originally Posted by HawkI View Post
    Second Warre - just had a swarm move in - quite a lot of bees in this swarm - my guess is around 1000 + bees.
    Nice one. Looks like Jo-Burg and the Warre Hive make a good combination ...

    Re: the condensation coming and going - I'd say that was a pretty normal event - moisture condensing out onto a relatively cold surface during the cool of the night, than disappearing as that surface warms-up during the day. There's a lot of moisture generated inside a beehive during the course of a season !
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    Quote Originally Posted by little_john View Post
    Nice one. Looks like Jo-Burg and the Warre Hive make a good combination ...

    Re: the condensation coming and going - I'd say that was a pretty normal event - moisture condensing out onto a relatively cold surface during the cool of the night, than disappearing as that surface warms-up during the day. There's a lot of moisture generated inside a beehive during the course of a season !
    LJ
    Thanks - your answer makes perfect sense. JHB has a fantastic moderate climate - even in winter. I would say 80% of the year the min/max is between 50 and 70F in a sheltered part of the garden. It also helps that Joburg has a massive urban forest - not the biggest in the world as many joburgers incorrectly claim but certainly very big.

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    Default Re: First Warre hive - slightly modified

    1 month in and the hives are all progressing really well - I try not to disturb the bees too much.

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    Last edited by HawkI; 11-18-2018 at 12:13 PM.

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    Last edited by HawkI; 11-18-2018 at 12:17 PM.

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