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    Default Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    Nobody showed me when I started beekeeping how painless it was to light a smoker if done properly. This is how we do it in no time with our dadant smoker.

    https://youtu.be/G5T5kDWPpqY
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    Is that some kind of dried grass you're using ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by little_john View Post
    Is that some kind of dried grass you're using ?
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    Yes sir it is. We leave a section of the yard unmowed for about 3 weeks then cut and let it dry for a day or two. It is very clean soft on the hands and can be packed very tight with ease.
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    excellent video tb.

    pretty much what we do here using crumpled up free newspaper that comes in the mail to start with and then pet bedding cedar chips available at walmart (huge bag for about $8).
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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    I use straw. That is dried grass, right? Mine cost too much, I might have to try yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennessee's Bees LLC View Post
    Yes sir it is. We leave a section of the yard unmowed for about 3 weeks then cut and let it dry for a day or two. It is very clean soft on the hands and can be packed very tight with ease.
    Well - that's excellent - I cut mine early yesterday, so have just (9 p.m. local time) been outside to rake-up a boxful. Dry but still dull-green - just like hay. I'll let it dry some more under cover and use that next time. You're producing far more smoke that I ever get from a sawdust & slum-gum mix. Superb video - very useful - thanks.
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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    I too like the pine shaving animal bedding. Here you can get a huge bag for $3-4 at the farm supply stores. Starts very easily, can pack it pretty tight in the smoker and if you feel like it is burning too hot or fast you can add a handful of green grass on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
    I use straw. That is dried grass, right? Mine cost too much, I might have to try yours.
    Cheers
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    Straw is similar and produces a fine smoke. What I don't like about straw is two things.
    1. It is springy and hard to pack tight.
    2. It is porous in the stem so there is not much to it.

    It works ok but doesn't last long at all in my experience.
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarepeg View Post
    excellent video tb.

    pretty much what we do here using crumpled up free newspaper that comes in the mail to start with and then pet bedding cedar chips available at walmart (huge bag for about $8).
    Thanks S.P. I recently tried wood chips and they work better than I thought they would have. Who knew!
    Splitting a first year hive successfully https://youtu.be/ZfRTreQ-S9c

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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    Tennessee
    Straw is similar and produces a fine smoke. What I don't like about straw is two things.
    1. It is springy and hard to pack tight.
    2. It is porous in the stem so there is not much to it.

    It works ok but doesn't last long at all in my experience.
    All true but it is easy to come by cause of gardening and chickens and so I pack it as tight as I can and then carry a chunk to the hives and every two or three hives, shove another ball into the smoker. It lights so easy with no paper though. Not bad for a lazy guy but I am going to try yours cause straw is not cheap and you use more then you would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
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    All true but it is easy to come by cause of gardening and chickens and so I pack it as tight as I can and then carry a chunk to the hives and every two or three hives, shove another ball into the smoker. It lights so easy with no paper though. Not bad for a lazy guy but I am going to try yours cause straw is not cheap and you use more then you would think.
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    gww
    My dad made a few acres worth of straw this year and I like the smell of it (weird right) but you are correct I can go thru a bale in no time at all.
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    I use oak wood stove pellets with a piece of burlap stuffed ontop once lit by benzomatic. A 40lb bag lasts about 2 years.

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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    Next time you have corn on the cob, save the cobs, let dry and snap into pieces, pine needles packed with them, bernzomatic to start, then pack in more.

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    Excellent video Tennessee's Bees

    What I especially liked is it took you 1.17 minutes to explain a 1.17 minute idea. I get weary of youtube videos where you have to watch 2 minutes of off topic drivel before they get to the subject, and then it takes another 10 or 15 minutes to express a 1 minute idea, which can get so tedious I flick forward a bit and end up missing the vital point.

    I watched your video because it was 1.17 minutes, and I'm impressed how much smoke you got out of that thing! If I see any more of your video's, I'll watch them.
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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    There's an even faster way. I stuff it with fuel, stick my self igniting torch down in there to the bottom, and pull the trigger for two to three seconds. Viola, lit smoker, zero futzing around with it, and it is already fully fueled when lit.

    I grab a handful of green grass or alfalfa, wad it up and stuff it in the nozzle as insurance to cool the smoke, close it up, and it will last for hours.

    That's an impressive amount of smoke, I'll have to give your fuel a try. I cut cardboard boxes into 1-1/2 inch strips on my band saw and make rolls the diameter of my smoker ahead of time. I put one of those on the bottom and then stuff it with pine straw, planer shavings, or last years quilt box shavings. But grass clippings from a lawn that is long overdue is something I've always got plenty off. The torch tip gets pressed through the top fuel down into the cardboard core. With torch ignition I can go ahead and stuff the smoker ahead of time and then light it when I'm ready.
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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    yeah... boring youtube videos ten times too long....Beesource has our share of those.

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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    Seeing as how every "Don't smoke" thread seems to get hi-jacked by the smokers, I'll add that I use absolutely NOTHING in my smoker, most of the time...
    After 40 years of beekeeping, I've come to realize that the bees can fix most of my mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    I get weary of youtube videos where you have to watch 2 minutes of off topic drivel before they get to the subject, and then it takes another 10 or 15 minutes to express a 1 minute idea ...
    ... isn't that the truth ? You're being so polite in using the word "weary" - I can think of far more colourful language to describe the effect such videos have on me.
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    Default Re: Light a smoker to last all day in seconds

    I have tons of free pinestraw in my yard; when needed, I light several crushed-together clumps of that and voila! As a rule -- if I did it correctly -- the smoke lasts as long as I need it for my 5 hives ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlanden View Post
    I have tons of free pinestraw in my yard; when needed, I light several crushed-together clumps of that and voila! As a rule -- if I did it correctly -- the smoke lasts as long as I need it for my 5 hives ......
    Yup. I've got tons of pine needles in my yard as well. It's great fuel--available, and free.

    My number one mistake my first 2 years of lighting my smoker was packing down the smoker too early. Like Tennessee does in his video, I now wait until my paper starter has flames coming out the top before I add my fuel, and I wait until my first wad of fuel is burning very well before I add more. Then I can pack it really full and tight, and it's good to go for an hour.
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