Alternatives to a honey pump?
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    Default Alternatives to a honey pump?

    Hi all!

    Bit of an odd question for you all!


    I am currently working on a sculpture that incorporates honey, and circulates it through some acrylic tubing. It is quite a bit of honey (approx. 10 gallons).

    I have looked into getting a honey pump, but they are quite expensive. Is anyone familiar with pumping honey in a way that is less expensive? I was thinking a powerful oil pump would work, but wanted to know if anybody had any advice.

    Thanks so much, and here is the intended final product!

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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    Do you have a supply of compressed air?

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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    I do, but don't want to use it due to the continual noise issues.

    After closer visual inspection of the Maxant honey pump, it appears to be a Dayton-brand rotary gear pump, reduced. And in fact, after reading their instructions, they indicate that the "bronze pump as it ships comes lubricated. please flush" which implies that they are just sourcing housing + the reduction hardware.

    Does this seem reasonable? https://jet.com/product/Dayton-Rotar...CABEgJu0_D_BwE


    edit: it would appear I am correct: http://www.maxantindustries.com/imag...ump/angle2.jpg
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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    I cannot help you with your question, but I hope you will provide a link in this thread to a video of your sculpture once it is up and operational. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    I certainly will!

    Also, if anyone has tips on what I could perhaps mix into the honey to make it less viscous at lower temperatures (room temp), that would be fantastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianseyer View Post
    I certainly will!

    Also, if anyone has tips on what I could perhaps mix into the honey to make it less viscous at lower temperatures (room temp), that would be fantastic!
    Water would do the trick.

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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    Quote Originally Posted by ianseyer View Post
    I certainly will!

    Also, if anyone has tips on what I could perhaps mix into the honey to make it less viscous at lower temperatures (room temp), that would be fantastic!
    Quote Originally Posted by klauskaan View Post
    Water would do the trick.
    Do not use water unless you want it to ferment and be watery. There is nothing you can add and maintain the integrity of honey. I am assuming you are making a waterfall type device for people to dip their $5 biscuits in. If so, you will have a catch basin on the bottom. I would keep the basin heated to 95-100 degrees to reduce viscosity.
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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    Quote Originally Posted by ianseyer View Post
    Grainger sells this pump for just under $300
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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    Thanks Mike!

    To note, please see the image I attached to the original post. This is a purely artistic endeavor, and will not be used to serve honey. It is okay if I compromise it being food grade.

    Re: integrity. Can I not add _anything_? Mineral oil, even? Something to keep it less viscous at room temperature.

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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    Does anyone know what the motor speed is and what the final reduction ratio would be?
    In other words, what speed would the actual pump turn at?

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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    I can't speak to the exact reduction, however, after visually inspecting the housing design and bolt patterns, I believe this is the exact pump they use:

    https://www.grainger.com/product/DAY...e-Rotary-4KHH5

    In addition, they mention in one of their instructional videos that they use a 1/3HP motor.


    These parts would run you about $450, and then you have to build housing + wiring + reduction mechanism.

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    Default Re: Alternatives to a honey pump?

    Thanks Ian

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