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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    Good question Olii2d.

    I've always admired Dee for being able as a single lady, to run 600 hives. However as you say, she cannot have been able to do much the last couple years.

    She was certainly yelling at people, but it must have been incredibly frustrating to get a whole team of people out to help, and all they do is stand around talking, filming, and sniggering. Didn't look like any of them had ever done a days work, or even understood the concept.
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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    The 2018 conference is happening as this is posted -- March 2-4, 2018. There are often one or two "from the conference" reports that circulate.

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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    Currently (and for three years now) Dee is on crutches and can't lift any boxes. Has anyone ever gone to a yard with tipped over hives and not found the bees in a bad mood? Every one of those yards had hives tipped over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    He's trying to make a go out of being a TF Guru I think and making money as a beekeeper is secondary.
    Having watched others who have preceded him Ö..I donít think making any money as a beekeeper is prerequisite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    Currently (and for three years now) Dee is on crutches and can't lift any boxes. Has anyone ever gone to a yard with tipped over hives and not found the bees in a bad mood? Every one of those yards had hives tipped over.
    Been wondering about that for a while Micheal, obviously that day was going to come when she could no longer work bees. Does she have help and the operation is still running and honey being extracted?

    Also looks like she needs some new boxes or they just going to start disintegrating.

    Re the hives tipped over, with my bees anyway, if I get there more than a few days after they were tipped, the bees have adapted and are just as calm as any other bees, it's also surprising how well a hive can do on it's side sometimes. I think the reason for the aggressive behavior in the video was more about the "beekeepers". Sol was pretty much holding his glove like a red rag to a bull, and with bees like that, once they are infuriated, it's only going down hill. Didn't look like anyone else had a clue how to behave.
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    My treatment-free experimental yard had a couple of unworkable hives of Russian bees. I moved them off by themselves as I could not stand to work them. I cannot get to the yard in winter due to a high water creek. When I came back in spring they had tipped over, the bees were still thriving in their sideways universe. In the spring time their mood was improved, and I tilted them back up, broke them down into smaller units and queened them up with Russian grafts. Unfortunately, the 2nd year of non=treatment did those bees in. Normally the "terminal hives" I treat and move off the mountain, but those meanies just didn't encourage drastic action towards recovery.

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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    Wonder if Dee has ever visited with anyone and worked some quiet bees, just to see what it's like.
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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    I just feel bad for Dee if those bees can live in that god forsaken place someone should help her select for gentalness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan the bee guy View Post
    I just feel bad for Dee if those bees can live in that god forsaken place someone should help her select for gentalness.
    What you have to understand is that in the desert southwest, bees with that temperament is the default setting. You have to intensely manage to keep it from happening.
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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    I was thinking about this video today.
    Who with any common curtesy would go into someone elseís apiary, record faults and post it on social media for beekeepers like me to criticize...
    Not only did she get zero work from the group, she has every Beekeeper on social media looking into her apiary

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    Agreed, and been thinking the same, there's a rather mocking tone to the video. My feeling is there must have been some falling out between Dee and Sol, for him after holding the video this amount of time, to make it public, unedited.

    While i do not buy into everything Dee has ever said, I have a lot of respect for her, she is a hard worker and a deep thinker and has written a lot, and life has thrown her some curve balls but she has carried on where others would have quit.
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    She is a tough woman and many things she advises are an improvement or something to think about. She got us all started on tf beekeeping and she talks to everyone who is interested, one hive or 1000.
    Best to you, Dee!

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    Honestly I hadn't thought of it like that ian, you are right though. When I saw the video, I just thought it was an abandoned yard somebody just forgot. But honestly, being new to all this... I would have never had a crowd like that in there. A chosen few, who would have helped clean it up. Even a little at a time would have been great help. It was scary for me to think about keeping bees at that point, but I'm still here... wanting bees ...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richinbama View Post
    A chosen few, who would have helped clean it up. Even a little at a time would have been great help.
    I think she chose the helpers but instead they made an amusement park out of this. Sol is not helping but trying to get all the attention. Not like Mrs. Herboldsheimer once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    Currently (and for three years now) Dee is on crutches and can't lift any boxes.
    The poor lady has been on crutches for the last 3 years!? How terrible. Who cares whether you believe in her methods, she is still a fellow beekeeper who needs a hand. Beesource members in the area should come together for a day and help her by at least getting her hives upright and stabilized. And leave the cameras at home.
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    I tend to agree with the majority of the above posts. What Jim Lyon has mentioned is probably most important. The surrounding genetics for bees in the areas where Ms. Lusby has her isolated colonies are the "bees on record" so to speak. Obviously the apiaries are in extreme neglect due to lack of management and investment in equipment, and one woman on crutches is hardly the answer. I recall when Mr. Parker used to post on here several years ago and he was clearly a beginner and not a seasoned beekeeper. I know several individuals in the southern part of my state who routinely visit parts of Mexico to work and manage some out-yards. "Manage" being the key word here. There are little resources to re-queen all of their hives every year so they have learned to work with the bees that they have, and there, those bees are the norm. It appears after reading the posts here regarding Dee's operation that what she really needs is an influx of $15-$20,000 for some new equipment, and then a few of our Mexican beekeepers to fix things up in order that at least a honey crop could be secured. Certainly a bus load of camera toting TF beekeepers from the local conference did nothing to assist.
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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    If some of the bigger beekeepers here would donate equipment and gental stock would you think Dee would accept it? I've got the time to do some labor I just have to get some protection.

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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    Right, what we saw was a tourist trip to the zoo, not the zookeepers at work
    I see no issue with how she runs her op... while the equipment is ageing, it will likely out last her beekeeping days, and if the bees do fine what is the issue with just visiting the yards a few times a year. Her bees take care of them selfs ,replace there own queens and often laying workers produce viably eggs that get turned in to queens (Thelytoky).. Her methods and stock are suited to her environment and methods...
    It may not be clean little boxes in a neat and tidy back yard, its wild west beekeeping on the open range, and TF to boot.

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    Default Re: New Video of the Lusby apiary == insanely mad bees

    If humans were exterminated and the bees that could survive returned to their natural state, I wonder if that is what we would get.
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    If you want to help her why not buying her book which is newly published now?

    https://www.amazon.de/Biological-Bee.../dp/1614761043

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