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    Default This should get interesting

    OK, I want to preface this by saying I think this is going to spark some debate, but hopefully it stays civil.

    I've been keeping bees for about 16 years now. Over the past few years I have helped a few friends get started who were interested. One of the first things I have always told them, and remind them of, is "Don't take everything I tell you as gospel. In the beekeeping world, there are opinions on every topic. Continue to talk to other beekeepers and follow sites (such as this one) and other sources and form your own way of beekeeping."

    Along the way I have began to think, are there any 100% do's/don'ts about beekeeping? For instance, screened bottoms vs solid bottoms, mite treatment vs natural selection...

    Reply with something you think is a 100% given in the beekeeping world. If you are an adamant natural selection person, there will be many who believe 100% the opposite.

    Do you think there are any 100% givens? Something that applies to all beekeepers universally, without exception, which would be beneficial to a newbie?

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    If you are rough with your bees, they will let you know the error of your ways.

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    Any 100% givens ?

    1. Read & Understand bee biology, health and nutritional aspects of honey bees
    2. Read & Understand various phases Honey Bee Hive goes through seasons
    3. Armed with #1 and #2, think through and see how your management practices (or lack there of) align with that knowledge
    4. When "something" happens, try to understand WHY. And how that ties back into the biology, lifecycle, health and nutritional aspect
    5. Get involved with your bees.
    6. Learn to make increases
    7. Learn to make your own queens

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    Dead bees do not make honey.

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    Two biggest killer of bees are:

    1. Mites
    2. Starvation.

    Take care of the mites and make sure your bees are fed.
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    Very good ones so far!

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    Don't keep a queen excluder on with honey above it overwinter.
    Don't harvest honey thats greater than 20% water without drying it.

    Do give your hives room for expansion during the flow
    Mites are in every hive.


    I can keep going, let me know what you think.

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    1. A colony that enters winter with no food stores will not make it until spring. Either feed them or order a new package for next year.


    2. Mites will be an issue for all colonies. They must be handled either by beekeeper intervention, by a locally adapted strain of honey bees that has some degree of genetic isolation, yet with enough genetic diversity to thrive -- or a combination of both.

    Fire away.

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    No rule is 100% with bees, even this rule is only 99%, 80% of the time

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    A thriving, healthy overwintered colony WILL swarm in the spring, without beekeeper intervention and appropriate swarm prevention management.
    To everything there is a season....

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    What Daisy said above, the biology of the honey bee is #1. And know your seasonal flow times.
    Proverbs 16:24

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    100%??
    You are going to get stung.
    You are going to have hives die.

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    Ask 10 beekeepers one question get eleven different answers.

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    Every hive inspection is an oportunity to kill the queen. Have a purpose for going in. Just to see how the bees are doing is not a reason to open a hive.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    Check and feed bees when they need it.
    Sugar is cheaper than nucs or new packages.
    You will loose hive tools.
    No ones need a frame hanger.
    Friends and family will expect you to give them honey.

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    Don't roll the queen.

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by jsterling View Post
    100%??
    You are going to get stung.
    You are going to have hives die.
    This was a big reality check for me...

    A man I respect that has kept bees for 30 years or more was asked if there were any "absolutes" in beekeeping... His answer was practically identical to the above with the addition of a sheepish grin and a small measure of encouragement.

    Don't be discouraged, But... Your going to get stung and your bees will die at some point.

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    Learn the life cycle, life span, and biology of the Varroa mite to determine what to
    treat with, when to treat or not treat at all.

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    Learn from your mistakes. In beekeeping, history will repeat itself 100% of the time.
    Rod

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    Default Re: This should get interesting

    If you get a package you need to treat or they will die.

    Know your bee diseases (including PMS) and there will be no surprises.

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