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    First episode is all about honey market and recent corruption with imported and tainted honey. Pretty interesting - about an hour long. Just passing along my findings to those with netflix.

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    Thanks for the reminder! I saw the trailer a few weeks ago and thought it looked interesting.

    Here's the trailer, by the way...


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    Thanks. I just watched it. Very good photography and info. J

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    This should probably be moved into the main forum. I think it would be of interest to all. J
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    they mentioned a specific antibiotic is it in a marketed treatment thats still available

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    This series is about our food supply and what we think we're eating as opposed to what we actually are. The first episode is on bees and honey and I thought it was fascinating! If you don't have a Netflix subscription, I'm pretty sure they have a free 30 day trial, so you could check that out if interested.

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    Ill look into it,
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    Is it full of hype and sensationalism?

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    21st century remake of the 20th century "The Jungle" sans the socialism/communism overtones and replaced with capitalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I’ll look into it,
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    Is it full of hype and sensationalism?
    The long and short of it isno and no. It just reaffirms what commercial beekepers already know. It is well made, and the producers evidently have a good grasp of the current honey market. I would recommend watching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laketrout View Post
    they mentioned a specific antibiotic is it in a marketed treatment thats still available
    The only mentioned antibiotic is chloramphenical. It was never registered to be used on honeybees. It is still available on the market.

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    I watched it
    pretty well put together

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    I thought of The Jungle too.
    I look fwd to watching it!

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    The episode, to me, leaves a few unanswered questions.

    What is the bigger danger of chinese honey: dilution with rice syrup, which itself is most probably contaminated with heavy metals, pesticides, herbicides, etc., or contamination with antibiotics?

    How does US-produced honey compare to the imported honey in terms of contamination with agricultural chemicals, heavy metal ions, and antibiotics?

    Do people use interchangeably "my hive died of CCD" and "my hive absconded"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baybee View Post
    The episode, to me, leaves a few unanswered questions.

    How does US-produced honey compare to the imported honey in terms of contamination with agricultural chemicals, heavy metal ions, and antibiotics?

    Do people use interchangeably "my hive died of CCD" and "my hive absconded"?
    The short answer is you don't want to know, the long answer is a lot of its not tested, but those selling to the big packers are in fact tested, for SOME items.

    Personaly I hated it, while it was technique accurate, its was set to be depressing and alarming. I know some of those guys personally and they are not like that at all IMO.
    Almonds is one of the coolest events on the planet, a miracle of modern techniques and old time stuff coming together to turn a desert into a food source.
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    Did you watch episode 4 charlie? It was about chicken farms and was actually the first one I watched.

    "The ruthlessly efficient world of chicken production pits vulnerable growers against each other and leaves them open to vicious acts of sabotage."

    I have to admit, I was hoping for a gunfight and a car chase
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    Quote Originally Posted by baybee View Post
    The episode, to me, leaves a few unanswered questions.

    What is the bigger danger of chinese honey: dilution with rice syrup, which itself is most probably contaminated with heavy metals, pesticides, herbicides, etc., or contamination with antibiotics?

    How does US-produced honey compare to the imported honey in terms of contamination with agricultural chemicals, heavy metal ions, and antibiotics?

    Do people use interchangeably "my hive died of CCD" and "my hive absconded"?
    Depends on what you mean by danger. The only danger is to the economic well being of commercial beekeepe honey should rs. Based strictly on supply and demand, if it were not for chinese honey then the price would likely be in the $3-4/lb range.

    The chinese processors use ultra filtration which removes heavy metal ions, antibiotics, they can ever change the color profile. It is very clean, scary clean.

    US honey would/does have more residue than chinese honey but at least it is honey. Remember though very little chinese honey officially enters the country. Most if not all is transhipped and enters as honey from another country.

    Jean-Marc

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    Quote Originally Posted by jean-marc View Post
    The chinese processors use ultra filtration which removes heavy metal ions, antibiotics, they can ever change the color profile. It is very clean, scary clean.

    US honey would/does have more residue than chinese honey but at least it is honey. Remember though very little chinese honey officially enters the country. Most if not all is transhipped and enters as honey from another country.

    Jean-Marc
    Yes, the filmmakers are mostly concerned with "undercutting of the domestic industry" by "unfairly low price" but talk nothing about whether chinese honey (diluted or not), and other China-manufactured food, are safe to consume. This is what the majority of the viewers are probably asking.

    From what I read from time to time, the chinese stuff is laden with toxins. Just making this info public and easily available could increase the market for domestic honey -- if it is safer, of which nothing is in the movie.

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    I just conveniently ignored the whole CCD part, generalized assumptions
    But the adulteration and transshipment issue was presented well

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    I initially watched it just to be informed of any BS slant, when my customers want to discuss it, and I know there are those who will!

    In my mind it accomplished two things: presented wrongs in the market place --without presenting absolute answers to the problems, and reinforced 'you better know you bee keeper' if these issues truly concern you..

    I love looking straight at a consumer and stating flatly : only my honey, only my hives!

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    nope didnt make it that far, watched the second one, it was a bit of a stretch (food allergies) they took it to extremes also. ( i hate that) but worse than that I started a new diet, and while watching it the tummy was screaming. quickly realized maybe a show about food was a bad choice. switched to hell on wheels and was fine!
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