Starting Nuc (s) from feral hive
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  1. #1
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    Default Starting Nuc (s) from feral hive

    A friend lives on the edge of a large tract of public woods. In the woods there is a feral hive in a large tree.

    His place is about 8 miles from my bee yard.

    I will place a swarm trap on his property in spring and hope for a swarm.

    My question.........

    Next Spring, Can I take a 10 frame deep, place 6 frames of drawn foundation in it, place 2 frame feeders in it filled with 1:1 syrup and drip of lemon grass oil (for scent attractant), and place out on my buddies land.
    After a day or two, when the feral bees have found it and taking the syrup, close up the entrance and trap the feral foragers in the box. Take the box home, pull the feeders and add 2 brood frames from one of my hives filled with fresh eggs, larva and capped brood. Then open up after a few days / week and in essence have a box full of bees comprised of feral foragers and two frames of brood with a few nurse bees that came from one of my hives ?

    Thinking I could get a nice strong nuc going by using donated feral bees and not taking too much from my hive.

    Thoughts ?

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  3. #2
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    Default Re: Starting Nuc (s) from feral hive

    Yes you can, can't say I'd agree with it but .... Personally, I'd take the 10 frame box with one drawn comb, four empty frames (with a screw on either side to keep everything in place), a smear of LGO and put that on your buddy's place. Forget the syrup and putzing with a bunch of foragers or donations from your other hive.
    “The single biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” -George Bernard Shaw

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    Default Re: Starting Nuc (s) from feral hive

    I don't see you catching that many forgers to make it worth all the work, hang a swarm trap and go back to working your bees

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    Default Re: Starting Nuc (s) from feral hive

    Quote Originally Posted by msl View Post
    I don't see you catching that many forgers to make it worth all the work, hang a swarm trap and go back to working your bees
    thumbs up.png Agree!

  6. #5
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    Default Re: Starting Nuc (s) from feral hive

    Ok. Sounds like I'll just stick with putting out the swarm traps.

    I was thinking I could get quite a few bees to start a hearty nuc. Maybe not worth it.

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    Default Re: Starting Nuc (s) from feral hive

    I bet that feral hive throws off several swarms per year. I would work the traps from April till July, maybe later in your neck of the woods.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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