Starting TF Group in VA
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  1. #1
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    Default Starting TF Group in VA

    Hello all,
    I figured this to be a good place to start...
    I'm interested in getting a TF group started in Tappahannock VA. We are about an hour from everyone so bee club meetings are really difficult to get to. I'm currently a member of Gateway Beekeepers and will probably continue to support that group as I can.
    I have spoken to a few keepers in my area and there are quite a few who practice organic and TF methods. I'd like to get us all together once a month to have discussions on methods and practices.
    If anyone is interested please respond or PM me. Looking forward to hearing from you!
    Jeff

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  3. #2
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    Default Re: Starting TF Group in VA

    Are you looking for hard line TF or just reasonably TF? There is quite a discussion on both this group as well as FB. I always considered myself TF, but since I use powdered sugar and diatomaceous earth, the hardliners say I'm a "treater". You might want to clarify what kind of group you are wanting to have. The Colonial Beekeepers and Nansemond bee club, 2 of my local groups, are mostly chemical treatment free. Nice not to have them always saying "put this or put that in your hive". And of course, my topbar hive group Hampton Roads Beekeepers is mostly treatment free as well.

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    I would say I lean to the soft side. I also use organic management. I'm not into the Bond method but I don't believe that bees need to be on a chemical treatment schedule. I just wouldn't want those bees.
    Its disturbing when folks inadvertently turn good bees into chemical addicted bees. We aren't keepers of thousands of hives so we shouldn't be keeping that type of stock. I'm sure the folks who have a few dozen laying hens don't keep them in 1cubic foot cages, cut their beaks off and pump them full of antibiotics. (sorry, soap box)
    It's getting tough to define beekeeping; you have beekeeping and commercial beekeeping and our methods are very different. I use small cell bees, soft organic management (no OA) and brood breaks to control mites. In the winter I use dry sugar for emergency feed and if we have a drought I will feed pure sugar syrup.
    So maybe I should change the heading to Organically Managed Beekeeping.
    Thanks for the feedback!

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    Default Re: Starting TF Group in VA

    Its re-assuring to know that there are other TF leaning, or otherwise organic Beeks near by. I'm just getting through my first summer with a top bar hive which I chose specifically for simplicity and initial cost. It was fun to build! Plus, Michael Bush's style appeals to me. I have fed the girls syrup and have used diatomaceous earth as well as nematodes under my hive because they were given to me. I have seen a few beetles, a few wax moth larvae (I think) and a few mites, but it seems my girls are doing OK. I don't see my efforts as "treating" like pumping chemicals or antibiotics into the hive is "treating". Facilitating optimal conditions is a far cry from some of the scary stuff I've seen done on you tube! After all, I want to be a beekeeper, not a bee watcher or a bee farmer. I'm gonna help the girls help themselves!
    I realize my opinion needs to be discounted for lack of experience, however I know enough to know that pedantic hardliners one way or the other are off putting and one reason why I'm not much interested in clubs....yet. Besides, I'm not all that social I am curious to hear about what issues you are having and may someday get off the fence and join a club. Best of luck to you.

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    Default Re: Starting TF Group in VA

    Quote Originally Posted by Scout142 View Post
    Its re-assuring to know that there are other TF leaning, or otherwise organic Beeks near by. I'm just getting through my first summer with a top bar hive which I chose specifically for simplicity and initial cost. It was fun to build! Plus, Michael Bush's style appeals to me. I have fed the girls syrup and have used diatomaceous earth as well as nematodes under my hive because they were given to me. I have seen a few beetles, a few wax moth larvae (I think) and a few mites, but it seems my girls are doing OK. I don't see my efforts as "treating" like pumping chemicals or antibiotics into the hive is "treating". Facilitating optimal conditions is a far cry from some of the scary stuff I've seen done on you tube! After all, I want to be a beekeeper, not a bee watcher or a bee farmer. I'm gonna help the girls help themselves!
    I realize my opinion needs to be discounted for lack of experience, however I know enough to know that pedantic hardliners one way or the other are off putting and one reason why I'm not much interested in clubs....yet. Besides, I'm not all that social I am curious to hear about what issues you are having and may someday get off the fence and join a club. Best of luck to you.
    Have you been to my topbar hive meetings at McDonald Garden Center yet? Or to the Colonial Beekeepers in Yorktown? Not sure if I've met you yet.

  7. #6
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    Default Re: Starting TF Group in VA

    Rats, and to think I just did my first ever treatment with Apivar. Are you inerested in forming a group that simply places an emphasis on TF? I would be interested in joining a local group to share information with. Ashland is 30 miles from my house here in Aylett.
    Will charliemac be trying it again next year? He is just on the other side of the river from me.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    JW
    It's never too late, hahaha
    Yes Charlie has gotten a couple of nucs. He is on the ball.
    No one here is going to condemn anyone for learning and doing what they think they need to do. If I had a hive that needs help I'd help it and watch it next year. Then try to get it back to TF.
    That is why I'm trying to get this group started. So we can share our experience.
    Pm me or go to my website so we exchange contact information.
    Jeff
    www.hivefivebees.com

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    Default Re: Starting TF Group in VA

    PM sent.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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