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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton Huestis View Post
    MP how did there winter population shape up?
    Seemed normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuttingedgelandinc View Post
    Mike, It is my understanding that these were bred for pollinating? Any word on that?
    Not heard that. His presentation focused on high honey production and low DWV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuttingedgelandinc View Post
    Mike, It is my understanding that these were bred for pollinating? Any word on that?
    From the saskatraz website:- http://www.saskatraz.com/pages/availability.htm

    Saskatraz breeder queens are selected for honey production, wintering ability, temperament, tracheal mite resistance, varroa tolerance/resistance and brood diseases. The Saskatraz breeding program uses recurrent natural selection to select for varroa tolerance in productive colonies with good economic traits. We have found varroa tolerance is not a stable trait, with considerable variability in the daughters of selected breeder queenís.
    No mention of pollination there. Makes sense to me, they come from saskatchewan, it's a honey producing area, pollination is not the major revenue producer in that area. I certainly understand the desire for winter hardiness for bees in saskatchewan, they get real winters.

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    It was my understating that they are Mated in California? Wouldnít most stock coming from that region be for pollination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuttingedgelandinc View Post
    It was my understating that they are Mated in California? Wouldn’t most stock coming from that region be for pollination?
    My understanding is, the saskatraz stock is selected in saskatchewan, then breeders are taken to california for the earlier start on raising queens, with the primary intent being, get those fresh new queens back up north much earlier than they can be mated in the north.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grozzie2 View Post
    My understanding is, the saskatraz stock is selected in saskatchewan, then breeders are taken to california for the earlier start on raising queens, with the primary intent being, get those fresh new queens back up north much earlier than they can be mated in the north.
    I communicated with Ray Olivarez last winter and he told me that is exactly what's going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuttingedgelandinc View Post
    It was my understating that they are Mated in California? Wouldn’t most stock coming from that region be for pollination?
    Not if the queens come from Saskatchewan.

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    Albert also sends virgins to Sue Coby for insemination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Not if the queens come from Saskatchewan.
    Got it

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    As well as mite resistance, there is a strong focus in the program on winter feed consumption and wintering, quick spring build up and honey production in a short intense flow (traits you need in bees to be successful in Saskatchewan). Generally speaking, bees from Saskatchewan will have a smaller winter population when comparing to Southern Italians in order to reduce feed consumption. Most of us can't easily get feed to our bees in March, and the weather is not conducive to feeding until April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saskie View Post
    As well as mite resistance, there is a strong focus in the program on winter feed consumption and wintering, quick spring build up and honey production in a short intense flow (traits you need in bees to be successful in Saskatchewan). Generally speaking, bees from Saskatchewan will have a smaller winter population when comparing to Southern Italians in order to reduce feed consumption. Most of us can't easily get feed to our bees in March, and the weather is not conducive to feeding until April.
    Thanks for the clarification.
    Are you at all involved with the program?

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    i got three to try last summer , one was really runny [the whole colony]. the other 2 got stolen nuc boxes and all while i was at a bee meeting. i am not sure if i need more of this. i know less than when i started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Nice! I hope those boxes are packed with stores too.
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    Ian
    I finaly get to see inside your wintering shed and get an ideal of your storage method.
    Thanks for posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
    Ian
    I finaly get to see inside your wintering shed and get an ideal of your storage method.
    Thanks for posting.
    gww
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    Quote Originally Posted by AstroBee View Post
    Nice! I hope those boxes are packed with stores too.
    Yes
    I tend to run that line,
    But I also tend to feed my hives right up
    I think itís the early brooding that zaps the stores

    Hope Iím not making a video on starvation... lol
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    Ian, I already know you will never intentionally let your bees to starve. When my hives are
    still empty of any nectar yours are already filled with syrup inside. You're too
    responsible as a beekeeper to let them die. Good job!
    Don't mix foreign bees into a virgin hive. She might get balled 100% of the time! When will you ever learn, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Keep in mind, there is more to raising good winter nests then just buying a queen.
    Point here is that potential hasnít been lost throughout their selection process.
    As for mite tolerance...I have not gotten that far with observations yet.
    The last treatment these have gotten was Apivar in the spring of 2016, OAV in fall 2016, this yard was requeened with Saskatraz June of 2017, mite counts linger under 1/2% yet

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    Nice to have low levels of mites. Just goes to show that OAV is deadly for varroa. Combine that with some isolation and the Saskatraz lines having some varroa resistance, a one or 2 time OAV year application and Bob's your uncle.

    Jean-Marc

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