Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer
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    Default Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    Has anybody used one of those car-jump starter/battery back-ups to run an oxalic acid vaporizer? It would be nice to have a dual use product (vaporizor power source, emergency jump-starter for the car, and back-up power for phones when I am off on trips).

    The ones I am finding are typically 12V, 20000mAh. I am a back-yard beekeeper with only a couple of hives located on my home property; I have no problem recharging between uses.

    I am not the best at electrical stuff, perhaps someone else could help?

    Thanks

    arm

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    I have heard they work fine for running a vaporizer. I haven't used one, but Plan to in the future.

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRuss View Post
    Has anybody used one of those car-jump starter/battery back-ups to run an oxalic acid vaporizer? It would be nice to have a dual use product (vaporizor power source, emergency jump-starter for the car, and back-up power for phones when I am off on trips).
    They work just fine..........
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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    That's what we bought for ours...a nice one from Costco.
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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    I use one. Dosnt last as long as a deep cycle battery though.

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    I tried a cheapo one, it would only vaporize three hives. I am also certain the small motorcycle-style battery at its heart would break down after a few discharge cycles. A small marine deep-cycle will vaporize 60 hives or more, and has worked hard for 4 years without losing capacity.

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    Got mine from Harbor Freight. Works great.

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by ahwolle View Post
    Got mine from Harbor Freight. Works great.
    Ditto

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    I've posted this previously:
    I did a little test of my ProVap running off my Jump starter with a 22Ah (22 amp hours) battery https://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-PS...r+jump+starter and my 750 watt inverter https://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-XI...umacher+X175DU
    Initially using the jump starters own readout showing per cent remaining power I treated 5 hives and it showed 95% remaining, and after 10 hives it showed 92% remaining power. I think this is just an estimate so I performed some time measurements and calculations. The wattage of my device per my Inverter digital readout is 287 watts, so calculated amperage is 23.9 amps at 12 volts (or 2.39 amps at 120 volts). So 22Ah Battery would provide 55 minutes of power at 23.9 amps to drain the battery completely. Most batteries last longest with a lesser DOD (depth of discharge) a shallow cycle lead acid battery will last about 500 cycles with a DOD of 50% and over 1200 cycles at a DOD of 30%. 50% DOD would be 27 minutes of operation and 30% would be 16.5 minutes. So I timed how much each treatment would require and how much time to warm up the device initially. Warm up required 3 minutes and 50 seconds and each treatment took 1 minute and 5 seconds to fully cycle back up to operating temperature. So for 16.5 minutes of operating time (30% DOD) my battery (22Ah) would last one warm up and 10.85 treatments, leaving 70% left of battery power. Assuming a 50% DOD that would power one warm up and 21 treatments.
    A deep cycle battery will last over 1,000 cycles at a DOD of 50% or a 44AH battery would output double the power and time of operation. My 22AH jump starter weighs 26 lbs., the 44AH model weighs 45 lbs.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N4WGN2..._t3_B000N4UQL6
    Bottom line the ProVap works great using a manageable portable battery and inverter.
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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by ahwolle View Post
    Got mine from Harbor Freight. Works great.
    Are you using the 400W Continuous or 750W Continuous HF Inverter ?

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by KenNashua View Post
    Ditto
    Are you using the 400W Continuous or 750W Continuous HF Inverter ?

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    Default Re: Back-up batter as power source for oxalic acid vaporizer

    I found an inverter that powers up the vaporizer in an emergency or in a yard without A/C power using a riding mower battery and was about $34

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