I haven't got it home yet but believe they are in there.
They were not convincingly coming and going like they have been there long but I have other traps close enough that are not being checked also and so my instinct says they are there.
Oh happy days, right?
Looked in all the hives and the bad ones are still going to die and maybe a few more are bad also.
I do have some honey starting to be in the right place and I did sorta add some space but only pulled one honey frame to bait the box and so will soon see if they accept the space.
I didn't have the guts to pull one of the boxes from one of the hives I am sure is dead and I had a couple other hives that I had put the last dead out on that had 5 boxes on them that I thought were not doing well either that I looked at for a super. But those hives had put just enough honey in those extra boxes to make it not worth clearing the bees to use elsewhere and so the bees will have to draw new comb to use the space at least till I get around to extracting some.
The swarm trap that had an actual hive in it when I put it in my apiary has surpassed drawing out 75 percent plus of the medium I put on it and was drawing comb on top of the frames against the inter cover, I added another empty medium. I pulled one frame with some spotty capped brood that was being back filled with honey to bait the added box.
The other two big swarms will probably need third boxes in a week or so cause they are going to town.
My two small swarms are very similar and about a Styrofoam paper plate sized circle of comb draw and look almost identical in all ways. They will be lucky to get the single mediums they are living in drawn out by winter. I have had success wintering single mediums in the past with sugar blocks on them and will probably not try and feed them to get more done. I will think about whether I want to give them another box of comb after I extract or not. They both had similar little patches of capped brood and I will decide later if I think they need any kind of help. Probably depends on rain.
My thoughts for the day are that I have figured out that bee keeping with young smaller hives is much easier then bigger multiyear hives with old comb. I am having a real struggle figuring out what is going on with my bigger hives. Some I know are in trouble and some don't look that good when looking in them but are bee strong and gathering well and so can't be that bad.
I was amazed in looking at pictures on the net how close pms could look like efb. I am as convinced now as can be with out buying a test kit that It is efb in some of my hives. Since I am not going to search out a vet and fix the problem with antibiotics until the problem hits me worse than it looks like it is going to now and I have wrote the two off and may get more but that will take time to see. As a side note, I am pretty sure that afb is not really an issue as there would be capped brood as that is mostly when it shows itself and I don't get brood to the capping stage. Had I acted earlier, I could have threw a capped brood frame in the bad hives to strengthen them but have not really seen good brood in any of the hives I have been digging though though I bet there is some in the big swarms if I cared enough but I figure I screwed around too long. I did sorta look around a little today in my big hives which leaves a story of why I probably should not be a bee keeper.
The story is, I opened my strongest bad hive and then left it open while I looked in some of the others. I ended up getting pretty hot during all this even though I was close to naked while inspecting. I had to walk 50 yards to get a super to add space to a hive and then when I had went though all the hives, I went in the house to cool down for a couple of hour. Then I took the grand kids for a four wheeler ride and when we went by the hives I seen that hive I had open still sitting in two different places out in the direct sunlight with no top.
I threw my viel on and went down and threw the hive back together. Like the hive needed more then it was already dealing with. Now you know why I write some of this stuff down. No brain power.
Over all, even with the problems, I am still bee rich (mostly due to the swarms) and with low incentive to improve. I don't yet know what the honey year is going to be but can't say I am really going backwards since I was not trying to maximize or make a business (job) out of my hobby. Were I a business, I could point out the money I could have made and count it as a loss if I had maximized what can be done with bee. As it is, I am still going to make my normal and it will still be all profit and so not a hobby I have to pay for.
Now the question of any problems seen will be, how much is going to be fluke and normal cycling of nature and how much is going to be accumulated issues that grow to having to be addressed to survive. This is the question in my mind that will take a little more time to see. I will be honest, I will probably try requeening and feeding next spring if I see too much bad stuff and if that does not work I will probably not go the vet route but might go do what a vet would do with out him through some nefarious means. Some of this will depend on what happens to surrounding hives between now and then. My hives are in a strait row, side by side and so I should get my answers in all of this. I absolutely hate the ideal of not really being confident of what I see inside of hives and not knowing it well enough that when I do something different, I might not be able to see what that different thing actually changes for me.