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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
    The second batch that I like better. I had some milk that was three days past the date but still drinkable and not turned. So I used milk instead of water and did use lard and used all purpose flour. I liked the texture of the all purpose flour best due to it being a little chewier. I triple the recipe and so get about 24 to 26 of the type that are in my picture.
    Anything that has milk, eggs and fruit in it and is fried in lard is called good eating in my book.

    I look forward to giving this recipe a try.

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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    Ok
    The few post back where I had a dead out and was going to brave it and see if the comb might survive till spring in place turned out to be a mistake. The wax moth have destroyed the three mediums and so 30 drawn frames down. So now I only have 4 drawn out supers for spring. I knew the risk but wanted to see in person. Next year such things will spend a bit of time in the freezer. Bit of a waste egh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
    ...I had a dead out and was going to brave it and see if the comb might survive till spring in place turned out to be a mistake.
    Wow, GWW. They completely eviscerated that comb- sorry about this. I unfortunately had to learn this lesson the hard way this year too- decided that the swarm traps have to come in before July 4th for sure and maybe late May around here.

    Otherwise, how are your bees faring? Lots of pollen coming in with this unseasonably warm weather?
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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Litsinger View Post
    Wow, GWW. They completely eviscerated that comb- sorry about this. I unfortunately had to learn this lesson the hard way this year too- decided that the swarm traps have to come in before July 4th for sure and maybe mid-May around here.

    Otherwise, how are your bees faring? Lots of pollen coming in with this unseasonably warm weather?
    Hate wax moths.
    More than 50 degrees the last few days here, and the bees are flying. One of five hives is dead. I gave one to my niece and it didn't get fed, so that's probably why. No honey at all this Fall. Popped open my 4 today and all are alive and working the sugar. Put a bit more in two of them.
    I have three traps out that due to the weather I couldn't get back to check on. The landowner has hunters so I couldn't get back in the late Fall. Doubtful there is anything in them but mice, but I like to imagine there may be bees.

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    Russ
    No pollen since our first frost that I have noticed but I also have not been watching the hives hardly at all. It was almost 70 degrees today and so I couldn't resist. The bees were not really flying today but all had bees at the entrance and so I figure I still have 9 hives for now.

    I leave my traps out all year and no longer worry about comb in them. Last year I did not even empty them of mice and wasp and such. I just threw a q-tip with lemon grass oil in every so often. I still caught one and the most I have ever caught is three in one year and so until I get desperate for more bees, I will only do it half way.

    I hope your holidays are going well for you.
    Cheers
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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    AR1
    One of five hives is dead
    Was that your really late queen hive? I am still curious of how that one might do.
    Good luck
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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
    Ok
    The few post back where I had a dead out and was going to brave it and see if the comb might survive till spring in place turned out to be a mistake. The wax moth have destroyed the three mediums and so 30 drawn frames down. So now I only have 4 drawn out supers for spring. I knew the risk but wanted to see in person. Next year such things will spend a bit of time in the freezer. Bit of a waste egh.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by AR1 View Post
    ...but I like to imagine there may be bees.
    Hope springs eternal, right? Good update, AR1. Here's hoping that your colonies that have held out this long make it through.

    Here's to a prosperous New Year to you and your family.

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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    I knew the risk but wanted to see in person.
    that is you to a T

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    Debbee
    Thanks for the sad face. I thought I would try it cause it was so close to the frost date and I had had single combs in empty boxes never touched for years. This comb all packed together must have been much more interesting to the bugs. It is a self imposed error that I sorta knew was going to end up this way but I just wanted to know for sure. Now I know for sure.
    Hope your holidays are going well.
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    msl
    How true.
    Hope you are well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
    ...so I figure I still have 9 hives for now.
    Thanks for the update, GWW. Sounds like your overwintering efforts are shaping-up well (as usual).

    Here, 11 of 12 colonies have recently begun bringing in a very light, almost white pollen in pretty healthy quantities- hoping they don't get fooled into brooding up too much, too early... can't imagine what is producing pollen around here already.

    We had a great Christmas celebration and I sincerely hope you and your family did as well.

    Have a great evening.

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    Russ
    Thanks for the update, GWW. Sounds like your overwintering efforts are shaping-up well (as usual).
    Long as I don't mess around and starve them early spring. Very first year of not feeding and this is another thing I am just wanting to know and as you can see, I am not above being mistake prone while just wanting to see things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
    Long as I don't mess around and starve them early spring. Very first year of not feeding and this is another thing I am just wanting to know and as you can see, I am not above being mistake prone while just wanting to see things.
    I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out- but I fully expect it is going to turn out just fine!
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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    Glenn, I hate wax moths too. Trying something new this year also. Most of the comb I brought indoors to the bee room was destroyed, even after spraying it with Bt.k. Had a lot of moths flying around the house for a while. The remaining supers were left on the hives for the bees to patrol. Feeders were placed above them so there would be constant traffic on warm days. Will see how they fared come springtime. In the meanwhile, I have about 50 medium frames to clean and rewax.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    jw
    squarepeg leaves his supers on the hives for the bees to care for and I think it works well for him. I looked today and the four that I have in the freezer still look fine. I only kept the freezer on for a few days. I had a big commercial freezer go bad and I have taken all the selves out of it. I have it outside in the weather and I am hoping to sorta use it as a sealed shed. Maybe freeze in the house and then move out there and see how it goes. I am not too worried about mold even if it happens but so far see none when I have opened it over the last few months. Wish it would not have went bad, could have made some money back on it but when getting lemons, make lemonade.
    Good luck with you.
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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    This year, I put my combs in the shed, and left a 15W LED bulb on from August to October. I had no moth problems.

    Earlier, I had left a few combs with some bee bread in them loose on the shelf, and the wax moths made a mess of them. After cleaning up and turning on the light, I left a few combs on the same shelf. The light appears to have kept the moths away, as I didn't get any more.

    Disclaimer - Wax moths are a relatively minor problem this far north, as the winter kills them off pretty effectively.

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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    While I had wax moths in the house, I did notice that they exhibited typical moth attraction to light sources, mirrors, windows, ceiling fans, etc. I think a bug zapper in the bee room would be a good addition. Should at least keep them from proliferating and slow down the reproductive process. Not sure I want two empty supers on every hive going into winter. Only have one on several hives right now. I am also considering placing a bug zapper in the apiary since I have power out there. A timer could make it only come on at night when the bees are not flying. No idea if bees would be attracted to one if were on during the day and I do not want to find out by experimenting with my bees.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    novice
    You should put your location on you post and we would know your coldness. This is a suggestion and not a criticism. Thanks for the comments. I have seen guys that make open racks to store their comb on so they are in open air with good light. If I would have set the supers on their side and left both ends open and even out in the weather, I probably would not have had issues except for maybe wood rot. I keep all my unused hive outside now and so don't worry too mush about rot (might come back and bite me later though).

    I have a general lazy streak and have never done any of this stuff before and so I always do the easiest thing I can think of until it bites me and I have to do more. The 15 watt light is a great ideal. I don't have good electric where I have good storage room at this point in time but do like your ideal and also the result of your shelf experiment. Thank you for mentioning it.

    I thought I would be ok due to being so close to frost date but apparently it did not get cold enough inside the hive where the moth nest actually was or at least not in time. I did learn one thing though. It did not take the moth too long to compleetly fill the hive cause it was not bad when I first noticed the dead out and we were really close to our first frost which came early. They must move pretty fast or I did not look very good.
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    Default Re: bone head split so far, somebody save the day.

    No, that one is still with us. Low population compared to the others but appears Okay. I'm not planning to dig into and disturb any of them until the snow is gone in the Spring. Pointless since I wouldn't have anything to do that would help them at this point.

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