I know with that post you were doing you best to help me figure it out and I thank you for that.
I will tell you about me. I am not a purist on anything yet. I actually have read most of that stuff and also any thing else somebody turns me on to. I just love when people post good links. I am not a follower of micheal bush but I do praise him for putting his stuff out there for free cause I don't buy much and have found that I can understand his writing style better them most. His site has probly helped me more on just understanding general handling issues. I don't buy into the philosiphy part cause I am not smart enough yet. I don't discount it either.
I watch all micheal palmer vidios and then bug him on things I don't understand every time I get a chance. I don't buy into his full phylosophy but also don't discount it and am very thankful he is there.
My problim as you are finding out is that I read everything with the intent of finding flaws. I don't do this out of hate but more because that is how my brain works in placing value to things. My learned way of learning.
I have solid bottom boards because that was what the free plan on bee souce had and I thought I could build it. I get into my hive pretty regular but I hardly ever dig to deep but do my best looking for as deep as I do go and watch the entrance almost daily.
I will not take mite counts by killing a couple hundred bees every so often even though I know in the big picture that is not much of a loss to a hive. But I might someday just like I have butchered chickens.
I will look enough to hopefully see changes as they happen but this year am new enough to not know what I am seeing.
Why would I try this, cause I have seen some one local and so figure even knowing the risk, have a little faith and see what happens.
Why else do I do this? Last year I caught 3 swarms. I give them nothing. I did know the risk while doing this and was willing to take it. I wanted to see what normal no help looks like and also to maby learn my areas flows a little. This year if I catch a swarm, I will feed untill they have thier broodnest comb built and see what the differrences are.
What is the point to saying the above. The point is that everyone has thier own prossess for learning and mine is pretty slow but I am a very lucky person and some how seem to do just enough to get er done. I do know the risk though.
On the ipm, I have seen randys view but also pick it apart for inconsistancys. Do I do this because I think I know more about bees than randy, NOT ON YOU LIFE do I think that. But I do think that even though his arguements are based on study, they are based on his study. Randy always has a base line hive to show the differrences of what he is expermenting on that has nothing done to it. A bunch of them died due to mites because he built the mites up so he could experment on them.
So I love the advice but sometime the risk has to be taken to prove out the advice.
Other people take these risk to experment also. A back yard bee keeper like me that is not relieing on bees for income can afford to try and reinvent the wheel if that is how his learing works.
I don't buy that it is ok when randy does it but not others though randy's skills do justify what he does.
I did not put that last part about randy up to go against your view on mite bombs but more to show my type of thought prossess while learning things.
I sound tough and like I don't care if my bees die and I am going to try it no matter what. The truth is that I might get scared and start treating tomorrow. I won't feel to bad either way I go cause I consider it the cost of learning if you are as dumb as me.
I see the levels of infection that they say treat and then requeen and then try again. That way you don't lose your work fource and it doesn't cost so much to work toward treatment free.
However, I also saw a post not to long ago of two differrent bee keepers saying thier hives where at 15% going into winter and came out strong in spring.
15% is higher then randys threshold and if it is 15% who is to say 17% wont work some of the time?
I am not saying I will be the one that onpurpose decides to find out with my bees but somebody who has had success with lower counts wil and may keep doing it untill they are successful. A few failure may not stop them.
I wan't to know all about all of this but do have on my mind what I have seen locally and so have to make the parts of all of it untill it fits my stuff.
You might find that come fall, I have posted all my bees died or I didn't get any honey for my first overwintered hives. If That happens, I don't even mind if you say I told you so. I really don't (gonna hurt if I lose all my bees though).
I also don't discount that a back yard bee keeper can help the situation of a possible mite bomb but also believe that if he doesn't it would be no differrent then if he had not caught the swarm and it had did what it did with out him.
So he may have an opertunity to help with his bees but he will have no opertunity of outside influinces against his bees and if he experments or goes hard bond based on the possible reconized bennifits, he will be of very little impact.
I want to know all the things you have to tell me and hopefully as my brain prossesses it, some portion of what you have given me will make me a better bee keeper in a couple of years. One thing about it. If you know it and I don't, then there is no hope of it helping me.
Thank you for the post.