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    Ive been watching a few bee videos on youtube. Im starting to see people using canvas inner covers some seem to be dipped in beeswax amd other's not. Whats the story about that method? Can the bees travel below the chloth? Is there a difference between wood or cloth?

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    Good question! The Honey Bee Research Center at the University of Guelph uses canvas inner covers extensively. I look forward to the discussion and hearing from those who have used both.

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    Cheaper.
    And they can move along the sides of the frame, so restricting movement over the top bars isn't a big deal. I used some cut-up woven poly feedbags. They work OK. Canvas might be a better choice, though.
    Inner covers are expensive.

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    Does the same job one is ridged one is light and flexible 2 benefits right there some use poly feed bags as long as it keeps out cover from sticking
    Bees probably have a harder time passing unDer it and over top bars compared to a rimmed wood inner cover but I'm sure they do here and there
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwcarlson View Post
    Cheaper.
    Inner covers are expensive.
    And they have about the shortest life expectancy of any piece of bee equipment I can think of. They are usually partially broken in short order.

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    I kinda like that idea of canvas dipped or un dipped. Looks alot easier to make anyway.

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    Why would you want it dipped? Or think it needs to be? The bees will coat it on the inside as necessary.
    Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwcarlson View Post
    Cheaper.
    And they can move along the sides of the frame, so restricting movement over the top bars isn't a big deal.
    My bees build burcomb between the top bars and the bag, creating channels they can travel within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    My bees build burcomb between the top bars and the bag, creating channels they can travel within.
    I could see that being the case. Do you still use many bags, Michael?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwcarlson View Post
    Why would you want it dipped? Or think it needs to be? The bees will coat it on the inside as necessary.
    Just curious.
    No it doesn't have to be dipped. But wouldn't you think it would repel water vs soaking it up. Im sure your right after awhile it will get coated thats why i probably wont waste the beeswax on that. I can think of better uses with the wax.

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    All my mating nucs have bags.

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    Michael P
    Does the bur comb affect feeding? Do You even feed mating nucs? I had the polly bags on some traps for an inner cover. I know if you cut them they fray badly. Any thing stiking out of the hive ends up being just strings. I am thinking about sewing up any edge that has been cut if I keep using them. I was scared that the plastic of them might hurt the bees and wonder if I am thinking of the right bag. I get cracked corn in them.

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    I can't find polly bags any where here unless you buy seed and I need a lot of bags not seed were can you get them in bulk?

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    Default Re: Canvas inner cover

    Has anyone tried 4or 6 mil plastic such as used for painters drop clothes?
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    Fabric store has duck canvas. Like carhart coats. I think ill get a couple yards and try it. I wonder if it would hold the heat in better? You know kinda like a blanket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gww View Post
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    Does the bur comb affect feeding? Do You even feed mating nucs?
    Not really. I do feed if needed, with an internal feeder or gallon cans on the bag...cut a hole in the bag. What the bur comb does do is allow crossover between mating nucs in the 4-ways. We keep it trimmed down to prevent open channels.

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    Michael P
    I understand the process better now, thank you for your answer.
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    Default Re: Canvas inner cover

    i was thinking of using canvas but i thought it would give shb a place to hide.

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    Default Re: Canvas inner cover

    Quote Originally Posted by AR Beekeeper View Post
    Has anyone tried 4or 6 mil plastic such as used for painters drop clothes?
    Check out this guy's vids. From the vid, you can see a bit of the advantage of using plastic, being able to peek in not so friendly weather, question is do the pros outweigh the cons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR Beekeeper View Post
    Has anyone tried 4or 6 mil plastic such as used for painters drop clothes?
    I wouldn't use a solid piece of plastic. It doesnt breath. It will collect moisture i bet. Wouldnt do it.

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