Queen availability in December?
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  1. #1
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    Default Queen availability in December?

    One of my friends just called and said he found his marked queen on the ground in front of the hive dead. Anyone know who might have queens this time of year?

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    Default Re: Queen availability in December?

    Olivarez in California has queens produced in Hawaii. It is quite likely that your friend is dealing with a supercedure and had a two queen mother daughter arrangement and the old queen has died or been killed. It is likely that you have a new queen in the hive.

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    Default Re: Queen availability in December?

    Thanks, Dave. I just called them and you are right. I am letting my buddy deal with it now. Most of our colonies here stopped raising brood a few weeks ago though I didn't question his last inspection (when it was or if he saw queen cups/cells).

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    Default Re: Queen availability in December?

    This supercedure could have happened weeks ago. In the fall mother daughter arrangements can last a long time. I have had them go at least 6 weeks. In one case both queens were laying on the same frame just inches apart. Both were still present with the last inspection, but come spring the old queen was gone.

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    Default Re: Queen availability in December?

    I'd say she was chased out because of the presence of another queen.

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    Default Re: Queen availability in December?

    Agreed, there must be a new queen
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    Default Re: Queen availability in December?

    Not that this is relevant to the Query.
    But I had a mother daughter arrangement in a hive where the mother remained for 3 year. She set up housekeeping in the upper corner of the hive and always had a lemon size brood parent. I always found her there. I believe she even out lasted a granddaughter.

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    Thumbs Up Re: Queen availability in December?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenbears View Post
    Not that this is relevant to the Query.
    But I had a mother daughter arrangement in a hive where the mother remained for 3 year. She set up housekeeping in the upper corner of the hive and always had a lemon size brood parent. I always found her there. I believe she even out lasted a granddaughter.
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    Default Re: Queen availability in December?

    So chances are that your friend's hive already had a newly mated
    queen in there? If so then no need to buy another one. A newly mated queen
    this late will keep on laying when hive resources are there. Maybe do a quick check for eggs.
    Don't mix foreign bees into a virgin hive. She might get balled 100% of the time! When will you ever learn, huh?

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