Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer - Page 2
Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 97
  1. #21
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Miami, Manitoba, Canada
    Posts
    9,340

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    That's weird
    Looks like Larry has replied within my post lol

  2. Remove Advertisements
    BeeSource.com
    Advertisements
     

  3. #22
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Manning, SC
    Posts
    5,197

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    That's weird
    Looks like Larry has replied within my post lol
    Don't drink and post!

  4. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Miami, Manitoba, Canada
    Posts
    9,340

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    How many times did you need to stop treatments to clean out the pipe or heat bowl throughout those 240 hives ?

    I keep a pipe cleaner handy it case dirt, wax on ??? gets in the stem, but I've not had to clean the stem or bowl due OA buildup. I clean it out after usage by running warm water thru it, that's all.
    Either I asked a question and answered myself...yes I do have a nice glass of Charoge in hand........
    Or Larry has hacked my BS account ? Lol

  5. #24
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,661

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloverdale View Post
    Lauri did a good video, thanks.
    Can someone please provide a link to Lauri's video?
    --shinbone
    (1975-1980, and now since 2011; maintain about 10 hives; Zone 5b; 15" rain; 5500')

  6. #25
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Manning, SC
    Posts
    5,197

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by shinbone View Post
    Can someone please provide a link to Lauri's video?
    Here you go......
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkYC1XveCxU

    Also, look under "Customer Service" for additional pics
    http://OxaVap.com Your source for the ProVap 110
    OA Vaporizer. The fastest vaporizer on the market!

  7. #26
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,661

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Thanks! There is no doubt that OAV is safe for the bees and highly effective against mites. We just need a way to easily apply it. This looks like a good tool for us small scale beekeepers to quickly put the hurt on mites.

    And, as usual, Lauri provides good visual documentation of her methods
    --shinbone
    (1975-1980, and now since 2011; maintain about 10 hives; Zone 5b; 15" rain; 5500')

  8. #27
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Manning, SC
    Posts
    5,197

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    From Another satisfied customer: Shinebone of BS.

    Got up to about 60F today here in Denver. I took advantage of the warm temps to do an OAV of my 10 hives with my new Provap 110, and to open the hives to check for dead-outs and spotcheck to maybe see brood.

    I checked two hives for brood, and they are brood'n up! I scratched open a few capped cells, and based on the development of the larva, I estimate egg laying started about 10 days ago, i.e. January 19.

    Also, the Provap worked great! http://oxavap.com/
    http://OxaVap.com Your source for the ProVap 110
    OA Vaporizer. The fastest vaporizer on the market!

  9. #28
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,661

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by snl View Post
    From Another satisfied customer: Shinebone of BS.

    Got up to about 60F today here in Denver. I took advantage of the warm temps to do an OAV of my 10 hives with my new Provap 110, . . . the Provap worked great! http://oxavap.com/
    Just to flesh-out my brief comments from above:

    I've got 10 hives in my backyard apiary. I saw the videos and comments on the Provap, and it looked it would solve my only complaint about the Varrox, which was it was slow to use. Looking at my local weather forecast, I saw a handful of days above 50F predicted for the next week, and decided to order the Provap and do a mid-Winter OAV of my hives. This because I had not done my usual late Fall OAV due to time constraints. I placed my order and SNL shipped the same day. Since I was trying to hit an imminent weather window, the quick shipping by SNL was appreciated. I also ordered organic acid filter cartridges for my facemask ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ), and picked up a 1/4" oak dowel from the local hardware store.

    I run all mediums, and my winter configuration is 3 medium boxes. I drilled a 1/4" hole in the middle of the top box on the back of each hive, and plugged the hole with a 2.5" length of 1/4" dowel. I ran an extension cord to my apiary and operated the Provap according to instructions. I fired up my smoker to use as a wind direction indicator. I did a test run where I filled the top cap with 1/2 teaspoon of OA, inserted the cap into the Provap with the Provap inverted, and then righted the Provap and let it discharge the OAV into the air so I could see how much vapor it produced and for how long. I watched the temperature read out during the process.

    The Provap worked great and a big dense cloud of OAV vigorously issued from the nozzle. During operation, righting the Provap causes the OA in the cap to fall into the heated bowl, and converting the OA powder into OA vapor absorbs heat energy. This shows up as the bowl temp falling, and then starting to climb again once all the OA has been vaporized. It is actually nice that you can monitor the vaporizing process via the temp readout, where the Varrox is operated blind. The Provap was mostly done producing vapor once the temperature readout started to rise. It took about 20-30 seconds to vaporize all the OA from the cup.

    I next did the same procedure to a hive where I inserted the Provap nozzle into the 1/4" hole of a hive before righting the unit. I essentially did what Lauri does in her video of using the Provap [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkYC1XveCxU ] (Lauri rights the Provap before inserting so viewers can see how much OAV the unit produces, where I inserted the Provap into the hive before righting), as well as what is shown in the Provap-produced video [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYl63Akou3E ]. I had plugged the hive entrances with a wadded up paper towel. Within about 10 seconds, I could see OA vapor "leaking" out of the seams of the hive. Based on how much vapor the Provap had produced in my test run, and seeing the vapor leak out of the hive, I am confident that the OA vapor flooded the entire hive. This took about 30 seconds. Once inserted and righted, the Provap operates hands-free, and while the hive was being OAV'ed, I was scooping the next charge of OA into the second cap for the next hive. Since I was working at the back of the hive, I didn't even need to wear my bee suit. I was thankful I had on the face mask, though. It was all super easy and fast.

    I've got a day job and other time consuming projects, so, for me, time is my main bottle neck for working my hives. The Provap works much faster than the Varrox (although, the Varrox is still an effective unit, it is just slow), and so is a big help for me.

    I treated on Sunday, and will check mite drops on Wednesday. I will post photos of my sticky boards so people can see for themselves the resulting mite drops.




    .
    Last edited by shinbone; 01-30-2017 at 09:49 AM.
    --shinbone
    (1975-1980, and now since 2011; maintain about 10 hives; Zone 5b; 15" rain; 5500')

  10. #29
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Meridian, MS USA
    Posts
    69

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Just curious, the description on the website say drill hole in bottom brood box. Lauri is putting it in the top.
    Does it matter?

  11. #30
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,661

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by deerslayer8153 View Post
    Just curious, the description on the website say drill hole in bottom brood box. Lauri is putting it in the top.
    Does it matter?
    Good question, and I don't have any special insight into the answer. However, based on another of Lauri's videos, I elected to apply the OAV near the top of the hive because it seems that, at least in cooler weather, the OAV will tend to accumulate near the bottom of the hive. This seemed like a good way to start based on the evidence at hand.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ22fhs27oo




    .
    Last edited by shinbone; 01-30-2017 at 01:18 PM.
    --shinbone
    (1975-1980, and now since 2011; maintain about 10 hives; Zone 5b; 15" rain; 5500')

  12. #31
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Manning, SC
    Posts
    5,197

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by deerslayer8153 View Post
    Just curious, the description on the website say drill hole in bottom brood box. Lauri is putting it in the top.
    Does it matter?
    Lauri does not want to drill a hole in her equipment as in the damp, wet environment, she states it will quickly rot. As to vapping from the top down, again Lauri was vapping in a cold, damp climate and the vapors were dropping, so she vaporized from the top down. Normally in temps 60 and above, I've found the vapors go all throughout the hive.
    http://OxaVap.com Your source for the ProVap 110
    OA Vaporizer. The fastest vaporizer on the market!

  13. #32
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Miami, Manitoba, Canada
    Posts
    9,340

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer



    Got my ProVap unit today
    Going to blast a few douses tomorrow to see how it works

  14. #33
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Miami, Manitoba, Canada
    Posts
    9,340

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    worked good , it really impressed me
    Next test will be a few thousand treatments

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=5v2XdgUwnCE

  15. #34
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Mahopac, NY
    Posts
    210

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    I have a couple of practical questions:
    1) If you drill a hole in your box, do you plug it with a dowel when you're done? Does the drilling, plugging, unplugging soak up the time savings that people like Shinbone (and me) are looking for?
    2) how long do you keep the front entrance closed?
    3) Do you need a heavier duty mask than with the standard Varrox?
    4) what kind of power source do you need? I have a Sears 1150 amp charger that I use for Varrox. I don't want to shlep around a large generator (or buy one for that matter). Will my portable power 1150 be enough to operate the ProVap?
    5) Does it matter what kind of Oxalic Acid you use?

    Thanks

  16. #35
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Rader, Greene County, Tennessee, USA
    Posts
    10,840

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    The ProVap operates on household AC current at 115 volts. A portable 'jump pack' that outputs 12 volts DC (including the Sears model mentioned above) is not suitable to run the ProVap.

    It is possible to run an inverter to convert 12 volts DC to 115 volts AC, but that inverter would be best powered by a running engine (car, truck, generator, etc). Of course, if you have a generator that outputs 115 volts AC, then there wouldn't be much point to a separate inverter.
    Graham
    USDA Zone 7A Elevation 1400 ft

  17. #36
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Mahopac, NY
    Posts
    210

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    the portable pack I have has an inverter, rated at 400 watts. I don't know if that's enough.

  18. #37
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Manning, SC
    Posts
    5,197

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    1) If you drill a hole in your box, do you plug it with a dowel when you're done? Does the drilling, plugging, unplugging soak up the time savings that people like Shinbone (and me) are looking for?
    The bees will propolize any hole you'll drill. However, there is no reason you can't do it from the front. Just take a paint stick, cut it to length, drill a hole in it for the vaporizer stem and you have an effective vapor block.


    2) how long do you keep the front entrance closed?
    It is recommended, 10 minutes. It is the vapors that kill the mites. Letting the vapors out too soon defeats benefits of the OA

    3) Do you need a heavier duty mask than with the standard Varrox?
    Not knowing which one you have it is difficult to answer. For the ProVap, you'll be working in a heavy OAV environment. I'd use the best.
    4) what kind of power source do you need? I have a Sears 1150 amp charger that I use for Varrox. I don't want to shlep around a large generator (or buy
    one for that matter). Will my portable power 1150 be enough to operate the ProVap?
    An inexpensive inverter (less than $25) will power the unit. It's 250w, 2.2 amp.
    5) Does it matter what kind of Oxalic Acid you use?
    Make sure the purity is greater than 95% and you're fine. Savogran (wood bleach) is 99.7% pure.
    http://OxaVap.com Your source for the ProVap 110
    OA Vaporizer. The fastest vaporizer on the market!

  19. #38
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Miami, Manitoba, Canada
    Posts
    9,340

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    >>time savings that people like Shinbone (and me) are looking for?<<

    Time savings is important. Proper set up accomplishes that. I'd argue beekeepers will find a way to put the time in if it means good mite control.

    Guys with thriving hives are kept busy, guys with dead hives have the time to drink coffee

  20. #39
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Denver, Colorado, U.S.A.
    Posts
    2,661

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    Quote Originally Posted by mahobee View Post
    I have a couple of practical questions:
    1) If you drill a hole in your box, do you plug it with a dowel when you're done? Does the drilling, plugging, unplugging soak up the time savings that people like Shinbone (and me) are looking for?
    2) how long do you keep the front entrance closed?
    3) Do you need a heavier duty mask than with the standard Varrox?
    4) what kind of power source do you need? I have a Sears 1150 amp charger that I use for Varrox. I don't want to shlep around a large generator (or buy one for that matter). Will my portable power 1150 be enough to operate the ProVap?
    5) Does it matter what kind of Oxalic Acid you use?

    Thanks
    1) I drilled a 1/4" hole into the back of my top box, near the middle, just above the handle. I plug it with a 1/4" oak dowel. The plug passes entirely though the hole to protrude slightly into the hive to hopefully minimize the amount of propilis the bees apply to the area. I've only done one OAV treatment with this method, so far, but the time loss pulling/reinserting the plug is quite minimal. We'll see how things evolve as the bees propilize around the plug.

    2) 10 minutes

    3) I didn't use a mask when using the Varrox because I always stood 20' upwind during OAV application. Since I stand much closer to the hive while OAVing with the ProVap, I now use a 3M face mask with an organic acid filter cartridge. This has worked well, so far.

    4) My hives are in my backyard, so I run an extension cord to my hives from a standard 110VAC wall plug. The ProVap does require 110 VAC, unlike the Varrox which ran on 12 VDC.

    5) I bought a bag of OA from Brushy Mountain just to be sure I was in 100% compliance with any pesticide regs that might apply. I think it is the same stuff as the typical wood bleach available from Ace Hardware, but has labeling appropriate for using the OA in bee hives, i.e. application instructions, where the wood bleach does not. A technicality, to be sure, but it is easy enough to comply with so I do.




    .
    Last edited by shinbone; 02-10-2017 at 09:09 AM.
    --shinbone
    (1975-1980, and now since 2011; maintain about 10 hives; Zone 5b; 15" rain; 5500')

  21. #40
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Miami, Manitoba, Canada
    Posts
    9,340

    Default Re: Questions & Comments on the new ProVap Vaporizer

    The reason I like this ProVap is it allows exact treatment doses, controlled burn , takes 30 seconds, light weight, cheap, and when you get it looks well designed and durable

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •