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  1. #21
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    Big Grin Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Quote Originally Posted by minz View Post
    Sorry to mislead you Harry, I am using my Taurus as termite control!
    Those things are still on the road?
    I have exactly ONE more hive than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond dispute!

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    MTN, I hope you will keep an eye on things and report on the population.
    If the Yellow jacket pressure returns then it will appear that you just killed most of the foragers.
    If the Yellow jacket sightings slow to a stop, BINGO!!!!!
    I can't wait to get your results.
    I have exactly ONE more hive than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond dispute!

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Well, now I'm a little concerned:

    Colony collapse disorder[edit]

    Fipronil is one of the main chemical causes blamed for the spread of colony collapse disorder among bees. It has been found by the Minutes-Association for Technical Coordination Fund in France that even at very low nonlethal doses for bees, the pesticide still impairs their ability to locate their hive, resulting in large numbers of forager bees lost with every pollen-finding expedition.[25] A 2013 report by the European Food Safety Authority identified fipronil as "a high acute risk to honeybees when used as a seed treatment for maize and on July 16, 2013 the EU voted to ban the use of fipronil on corn and sunflowers within the EU. The ban took effect at the end of 2013."[26][27]
    Not sure I can reconcile using this stuff on the the hornets and wasps with the risk to the bees I'm trying to protect.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    You have to consider the totality of the situation. If I had a few YJs annoying the yard, I would live with it. I had thousands decimating this yard. I feel this was my best option to save this yard- and it did with no collateral damage that I have observed. I just came in from this yard and I saw no YJs.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    I have been using this technique for several years with great success. I’m switching the Taurus SC this year due to cost. Frontline, even the generic products are expensive. I will be using a 1/2 cc per can of canned cat food- fish based. Hopefully it will work as well as the Frontline. If someone is using a different dosage, please let me know.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    that has been the amount but I do not find I get many takers at that. I am going to drop back just a little. It is some pretty nasty stuff.
    “Why do we fall, sir? So that we might learn to pick ourselves up” Alfred Pennyworth Batman Begins (2005)

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    I was fishing on the dock and having a couple of beers with my wife and I left a half full bottle of Heineken out. The ground hornets/YJ would not leave it alone and would crawl in and drown. After a couple of days I came back to the lake and the bottle was full of them. That year they were bad... I never located the nest.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Quote Originally Posted by 1954Lincoln View Post
    I was fishing on the dock and having a couple of beers with my wife and I left a half full bottle of Heineken out. The ground hornets/YJ would not leave it alone and would crawl in and drown. After a couple of days I came back to the lake and the bottle was full of them. That year they were bad... I never located the nest.
    That's one way to bait them! I wouldn't want to waste a full bottle of beer.
    By the way, gotta be careful when drinking outdoors when the YJs are bad. A friend was stung on the lip and her whole face swelled up.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    I realize this thread is 3 years old but...Has anyone found that later in summer they need a sweet based lure as opposed to meat based? Now that we're in August, the YJ seem after honey, not bees (protein). Have you found the cat food/canned chicken bait still effective when the YJ are more carbohydrate focused? One wouldn't use honey, obviously, but fruit jelly, rotten fruit, soda, etc.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    I do not have YJ traps out, but each year hundreds drown in my hive top feeders, (they chew their way in). So yes, I do believe that a sweet based lure would be effective.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Quote Originally Posted by JWPalmer View Post
    I do not have YJ traps out, but each year hundreds drown in my hive top feeders, (they chew their way in). So yes, I do believe that a sweet based lure would be effective.
    I remember an old 'Tapply's tips' from Field and Stream. It was for camping and of course, fishing. The idea was to hang a dead fish over a pail of water. The yellowjackets would gorge on the fish, fall into the bucket, and drown. Pre pesticide days, I guess. IOW, a long time ago.

    I have used an gallon glass wine jug with dilute honey water inside. Jackets go for it and drown; however, I'd keep an eye on it to make sure the bees don't go for it also. It also helps to wipe some honey around inside of the jug's neck.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    That's the concern, using sugar water or honey or cappings wax with honey, and not attracting honey bees.

    We're entering post blackberry dearth here. Open a hive, and the YJ are on the open honey, not hunting bees. Dry summer in Washington State, and the YJ are particularly bad this year.

    Thanks for responding.
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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Dredging up an old thread here. What is the opinion of fipronil? Would cheaper insecticides work as well mixed with cat food?

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    I will share this again; last season I used these traps and they WORKED! They caught yellow jackets, wax moth, hornets, flies, and NO HONEY BEES. I got the recipe from Rusty Burlews Honey Bee Suite, an articles on Wasps, not sure of exact title. Use 1 pound of Dominoes DARK BROWN SUGAR and a gallon of water. The sugar dissolves. Use a gallon jug, I used a milk jug, cut a hole above the ½ way mark, and fill it half way. I had 3 of these right on top of my hives last year, and it caught and drowned all the above. Follow recipe exactly. I have 20 hives. Yours supposed to hang these where the yellow jackets congregate, but they were so bad last year I put them right in the apiary.
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    Last summer I took two liter soda bottles and cut the top off right before the taper starts. Invert the top forming a funnel and fill with about 4" of 2-1 syrup. To this add a chunk of banana to repel the bees. This works well until the killing frost and you start getting bees. Form some kind of roof to keep the rain out and you can sit for a while and watch those little sobs drown nice and slow!IMG_20190930_181556432_1582247705802.jpg
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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    I used that soda bottle method a few years back. It worked very well.

    Alex
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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Last year my wife put out YJ traps by hanging the commercial traps on the apple trees that are between the hive stands. Sounded like a good plan to me other than those traps are expensive. In late May I had some mating nucs get a little on the crowded side and swarm. One of those swarms thought the wasp trap in the apple tree would be a perfect place to set up shop. note the beginnings of wax on the inside of the trap. Second photo is just before cutting it open to move the little swarm into a proper hive. Does a good job of showing the type and brand of YJ trap to use if you want to catch swarms....
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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Just when you think you've seen it all.

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    So those traps do catch something. Maybe I got half dozen yellow jackets in mine last fall.

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    Default Re: Yellow Jacket Bait Stations

    Apple juice, a splash of apple cider vinegar and a couple of drops of dish soap. Soap disrupts the surface tension so aids in drowning. Works very well to attract(wasps are attracted to apples) and very little/nil attraction to bees.

    Cat food, wieners, and bananas never worked very well for me.
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