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  1. #1
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    Default Plastic foundation

    As of now I've bee foundationless but I'm looking the expand next year and trying to find a good source for plastic foundation. Any suggestions?

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    Google Acorn bee supply - Nick is great to work with

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    We have plastic foundation available in 2 different sizes and in several different quantities, plus you get free shipping over $100.
    Thanks!
    Kimberley Lappe
    Lappe's Bee Supply & Honey Farm LLC Helping Beekeepers Around The World

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    I started foundationless also. Whenever you get more than a couple hives my experience is that it's pretty terrible. I second the acorn foundation. They draw it out very fast and there is plenty of wax on the sheets. Great stuff

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    I use Pierco plastic frames as my mainstay. I give them an extra coat of wax, and find my bees take to them like a duck to water. They draw nice, straight, even comb on them every time. I think they give marginally more wiggle room on the frame rest than foundation in wood frames.

    Enj.

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    Will the bees draw out plastic foundation when feeding 1 to 1 syrup like regular wax foundation ? Will they only draw out plastic foundation during heavy flow?

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    waxed with sugar water - yes - unwaxed - not so much

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    Bkwoods. I'm close to you and I'm still getting acorn foundation drawn out without feeding. Every time it rains like yesterday they seem to continue to build wax the next couple days. I've made some nucs up and been feeding 1:1 and they have drawn those frames out nicely.

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    Acorn double waxed, Acorn double waxed, Acorn double waxed...

    I was previously using Ritecell. It has much less wax per sheet than Acorn and is not taken to nearly as fast because of having less wax.

    We are in an "exceptional" drought and our normal summer dearth. My bees are still drawing Acorn foundation out while being fed 1:2 syrup. Just for clarification, 1 part sugar to 2 parts water by volume, not weight.
    The more I learn about bees, the less I know.

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    I use ritecell in my deep frames but only half a sheet centered in the frame.
    And with some extra wax added. They take to it well with more wax.

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    Brad, is your 1:2 because of the drought/death condition or your normal during summer feeding. I've been feeding 2 swarms 1:1 since June. They have a combo of wax and extra coated plastic foundation.

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    It is because of an earlier than normal dearth caused by the drought. I made these splits plenty early enough for them to build up in a normal year, but I learned my lesson last year. I made some late splits last year and didn't feed them. 3 out of 10 survived until our marginal fall flow. I won't repeat that same failure again. I'm feeding these until they have 10 deep frames drawn and either filled with a combination of syrup and brood. Not only did I lose 7 splits last year, I also lost all 7 nucs of comb to wax moths.

    My brother says that lessons that cause pain, or cost money are the best teachers.

    That one caused both, so it won't be repeated.

    Five of the 10 that I am feeding this year are late acquired hives. Three of them are TF queens that I bought and made splits with. One of them is a July issued swarms that I caught from feral stock and another is a cut out that I did last week.
    The more I learn about bees, the less I know.

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    I've been using Rite cell foundation for a number of years. Never used Acorn but in all honesty I prefer coating my own frames with my own wax. Rite cell has worked perfectly.
    "Tradition becomes our security, and when the mind is secure it is in decay".....Krishnamurti

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    Where do you buy Acorn Frames...do they have any distributors?

    I'm a newbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerPutnam View Post
    Where do you buy Acorn Frames...do they have any distributors?

    I'm a newbee
    Yes they have distributors. I found one close enough to me to drive and pick them up.
    The more I learn about bees, the less I know.

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    Miller they have them at Blythewood bee co. In Columbia South Carolina. I picked up a couple hundred frames from them about a month ago. People seemed nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerPutnam View Post
    Where do you buy Acorn Frames...do they have any distributors?
    Foxhound Bee Company sells them also Birmingham, AL
    If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.
    Abraham Maslow

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynemd View Post
    Foxhound Bee Company sells them also Birmingham, AL
    Yes that's where I bought mine. I drove down and picked it up.
    The more I learn about bees, the less I know.

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    Default Re: Plastic foundation

    Brushy mtn is close I have used pierco and acorn acorn is more solid I roll both with a coat of beeswax
    Friend tells me take time to stop and smell the roses I say "I do then I take 10 steps quicker to make up for lost time"

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbeejohn View Post
    Brushy mtn is close I have used pierco and acorn acorn is more solid I roll both with a coat of beeswax
    Can you describe the method of rolling more wax on the frames? Temperature of wax, type of roller...method of heating wax. Thanks, miller

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