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    Default virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    So I treated a overwintered nuc so well this spring they swarmed on me on or about the 30/31 of May. In my inexperience I failed to time the removal of queen and her daughters in time so they left me. I did a 5 way split on the 31st of may with what looked like nearly capped cells, could of had capped that I had not seen. So tonight I saw this bee just out side of one of the splits sitting there.




    I videoed her walking into the hive she was well received and no aggression towards her was shown.

    Would this be a virgin or newly mated queen?
    A young queen from a different location?
    Not a queen?

    her wings look a bit tattered.
    She is distinctively colored different then the rest of the bees from this colony.
    There was bees of this color trying to rob this hive location earlier this year when I had added a frame of honey in the spring.

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    that's a drone

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    I'm going to go with virgin seeing as it's an old "robber" bee.
    Look at how beat up those wings are.

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Don't the eyes him him away?

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    The bees in this colony were raised on 4.9 cell. The robbers earlier this year were larger then these bees. Don't believe it to be drone as the ones I have seen are larger then these girls.

    This video might help.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/yolrVPx7ZxU

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    You know what they say about a bee with big eyes. my bet is on drone.

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    It's not a drone...
    It's an old worker bee.

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    what ever it is? it doesn't look like a queen.

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    I'd say drone. It's got that square abdomen front.

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Drone

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerPlanter View Post
    Drone
    Quote Originally Posted by DanielD View Post
    I'd say drone. It's got that square abdomen front.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrJeseuss View Post
    You know what they say about a bee with big eyes. my bet is on drone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harley Craig View Post
    that's a drone
    Are you guys serious?

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Since even people who have been keeping bees way longer than me are struggling with this one...




    What does the braintrust think this is?

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    It is an old worker. Look at the eyes of the workers in the picture and you will see that they are not smaller than the black bee, but are the same size.
    42 + years - 24 colonies - IPM disciple - Naturally Skeptic

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Old virgin worker bee. Definitely not a drone or queen.

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Quote Originally Posted by AR Beekeeper View Post
    It is an old worker. Look at the eyes of the workers in the picture and you will see that they are not smaller than the black bee, but are the same size.
    Quote Originally Posted by Broglea View Post
    Old virgin worker bee. Definitely not a drone or queen.
    Hey that brings us to almost 50% of the replies being correct!

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Are you guys telling me you can't tell the difference between a drone and an old wore out worker bee?

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    Heck I am new and got this one....
    Cheers Bill
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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Quote Originally Posted by jwcarlson View Post
    Are you guys serious?
    I agree... seriously folks drone???
    sc-bee

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Quote Originally Posted by sakhoney View Post
    Are you guys telling me you can't tell the difference between a drone and an old wore out worker bee?
    Maybe it identifies as a drone, did you bother to consider it's feelings......lol. I can clearly see its not a drone today but from my phone it sure looked like one last nite. I suspect that may be why some of the other experienced folks thought the same. Stand back 20 ft from your cpu monitor and look lol

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    Default Re: virgin or newly mated queen? pic inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Harley Craig View Post
    Maybe it identifies as a drone, did you bother to consider it's feelings......lol. I can clearly see its not a drone today but from my phone it sure looked like one last nite. I suspect that may be why some of the other experienced folks thought the same. Stand back 20 ft from your cpu monitor and look lol
    Still obvious... it's the same **** size as the other bees. :P

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