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    Default Photos of larvae at the "right stage

    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone has any decent quality photos of eggs and larvae they might like to share at before, just right, and too late. I found choosing the "right stage" to be my least favourite part of the process last year, and haven't found any good comparison photos.

    Thanks

    Jake

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    just pick the smallest larva you can find in the nest...your making it harder then it needs to be.
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    Yes. The larvae will be right up against the eggs, section.
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    and a fresh hatched larva is smaller than a egg. look for just a tiny spit of royal jelly and you can slice the face of the comb back to make it easier to see and work
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    Default Re: Photos of larvae at the "right stage

    Quote Originally Posted by IBJake View Post
    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone has any decent quality photos of eggs and larvae they might like to share at before, just right, and too late. I found choosing the "right stage" to be my least favourite part of the process last year, and haven't found any good comparison photos.

    Thanks

    Jake
    FOR WHAT? We all are assuming you are talking grafting. But you could be referring to sushi for all we know as the post is extremely vague.

    As a rule the newest larva will be next to eggs with progressively older larva toward the center.

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    I like to see a drop of royal jelly with an imperfection on the surface...
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    maybe Lauri Miller has some good photos
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    Default Re: Photos of larvae at the "right stage

    Quote Originally Posted by IBJake View Post
    Hi, I was wondering if anyone has any decent quality photos of eggs and larvae they might like to share at before, just right, and too late. I found choosing the "right stage" to be my least favourite part of the process last year, and haven't found any good comparison photos.
    Thanks Jake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    I like to see a drop of royal jelly with an imperfection on the surface...
    As I was told - "graft the larvae you can't see."

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    Thanks for the replies, I guess my question was a bit vague. I'm just starting to get my plans together to start grafting, I'd like to produce 15-20 queens as early as possible here. I still should have a week or so to dither and plan but it has suddenly turned summery here. I had a first time go at grafting last year and struggled with telling the difference between the eggs and larvae. I thought I'd try to select a few from each end of the spectrum and see which worked best, however I must have picked a little too late and one hatched early and wiped most of the rest out. I did find it a lot easier grafting the later ones as you could see definition, but from everything I've read that is not ideal. Thanks a lot for the link to the doorgarden, that is the best write up along with the attached links I have seen. It seems very similar to the Randy Oliver "queens for pennies" I tried last year. I guess if you are grafting the "drop of royal jelly with an imperfection at the surface" you are relying on your experience that it is working, and will be something that comes with time. I thought I had seen a set of fairly close up pictures that show the daily progression of eggs through larvae, but I can't find them now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBJake View Post
    I did find it a lot easier grafting the later ones as you could see definition,
    I bought a pair of +3 reading glasses and that "drop of royal jelly with an imperfection at the surface" magically becomes larvae for grafting, even if you have good eyesight some form of magnification will help a great deal.
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    Here's a photo of larva right next to eggs that is too old. That is not a dependable way to judge age or suitable grafting stock.

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    Don't feel bad about your question...obviously you are talking about grafting as this is the queen rearing forum. It amazes me how some people can be such jerks when answering a question. If it bothers you that bad that you have to be a jerk and belittle someone then don't answer the question! Go outside and get stung by your bees instead!

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    This is just about perfect for grafting...I always look for them to look 'thready' rather than 'chubby'.



    ...on this one, the egg is in the upper left, the larva on the upper right is perfect...the rest are older than I would use.
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    ...and this is getting the grafting tool under the larva:
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    Other times I can barely see. -The Grateful Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Palmer View Post
    Mike, great photo....I had good luck coloring in the back of the plectrum (I know you like those technical terms) with a dark blue or black sharpie...helps the larva stand out better in a photo.
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    Great post deknow!

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    This one shows the shell in the process of dissolving....chicken or egg?
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    Wow, this is cool!

    I think it'd be really cool to look at an egg under a microscope and watch cell divisions, etc.

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