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  1. #21
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    Little Rock, Arkansas
    Just getting started and have found a source of local TF bees in Dardenelle, AR.

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  3. #22
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    from another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Huntingstoneboy View Post
    http://www.johnstonshoneybeefarm.com/

    Not sure if he is a member here.
    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Michael Johnston has been a member here. There is a dry sugar feeding technique that bears his screen name. I haven't seen him participating in many years.
    journaling the growth of a (mite) treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

  4. #23
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    Stuart Ratcliff. Southern, Indiana. Started with local stock in 2011. I've been expanding, wintering nucs, and selling Nucs and Queens the last 2-3 years. Went into winter with around 90 colonies, mostly nucs.

  5. #24
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    100% treatment-free for 5-6 (?) years in urban environment. My bees are using natural cell-size and top-bars (frameless, foundationless) in standard (sort of) Langstroth boxes. Original bees were feral (?). Right now we have 3 household with small apiaries (City permitted). All bees are treatment-free and doing well. I have some pictures in photo-gallery.
    Santa Monica, CA
    Серёжа, Sergey

  6. #25

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    I logged in to post this same thing! I want to create a map of TF breeders/suppliers for my beekeeping students. If you are selling TF bees, please link your website and tell us where you are. I am TF since I started in 2010. I have 60 colonies in San Diego, CA. Most of them are mutts. www.girlnextdoorhoney.com

    TF breeders I am aware of:
    http://wildflowermeadows.com in San Diego, CA
    http://www.beekind.com/orderbees.html Bay Area, CA
    http://www.carpentersapiaries.com/Pages/default.aspx Florida
    http://oldsolbees.com/nucleus-colonies/214-2/ Oregon?
    http://www.wildernessbees.com Washington
    Beekeeping Instructor / Live Bee Removal / San Diego, Ca / 90 hives. Check out my new book: Queenspotting

  7. #26
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    Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri. keeping bees since the mid 70's
    somewhere around 35 hives. Carni's. everything is a deep box

  8. #27
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    Medford, Or
    R. Aragon
    "Bees Have a Secret Life That We Don't Know About"

  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by ulimann View Post
    Started out with 2 packages and went for 9 years treatment free. One of the 2 hives stayed with me all that time. Kept introducing carnis and Russians. Always had 5 to 8 hives, had a bunch of losses but just kept on going until '05 when bears did me in. Started back up 4 years ago treatment free again with Russian mutts and keep introducing new Russian queens aiming for 25 hives this year.
    ulimann appears to be located in northwestern washington state.
    journaling the growth of a (mite) treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

  10. #29
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    I'm posting this with some level of apprehension, as I sometimes disagree with the discussions in the TF forum. I try my best to stay out of the discussions as I feel objectivity (both mine and others) is sometimes lacking. With these huge caveats, I've been relatively TF for over a decade. However, if I find a colony that is carrying a large mite load it will be treated (MAQS) and requeened with resistant stock. I never routinely treat any of my colonies. Regarding mites, I treated 1 out of 60 in 2013, and 0 out of 60 in 2014 and 2015. My stock is almost exclusively VSH-based stock that I maintain and propagate using II. Some of my stock is feral colonies that have just survived, but the vast majority has some direct lineage to VSH stock. I sell a limited number of queens locally. I do not ship queens at all. My queens have not been seriously tested outside the Southeast region of VA. My primary breeding objectives are to develop bees that can survive varroa AND retain their productivity.
    Last edited by AstroBee; 02-19-2016 at 03:09 PM. Reason: typo - one of my many...
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  11. #30
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    I am taking the 3rd route to be tf eventually.
    Got queen from Pete up in NY who has not treat
    10 year in beekeeping. His is mainly Russians genetics.
    Raised my own carnis mutt x Italians (from a tf bee farm.)
    My goal is to keep the Cordovan (mutt) by open mating some
    carnis and Italians local drones that can coexist with the
    mites. So far I have a small operation that they all survive
    this mild winter. Selecting for the mite resistant local
    queens to grow my operation. I only use my homemade oav gadget when needed.
    The last oav treatment was on late October last year. The bottom board
    has a heavy load of the dead mites so they are fighting or struggling to
    survive for sure. No hive lost this winter for the first time in 4 years .... How can they
    survive the heavy mite infestation the last winter? Allgorooming(sp?) is what I am looking for that seems to
    keep the mites at bay.
    This is a good directory that should be a sticky note! I'm sure we can exchange
    some queens to select for the desire genetics material.

    Also, list your grafting or queen available date so we can get some of your local tf queens.
    Queen shipping is very simple. Just poke some holes on an envelop or a small box for the bees to
    breathe and use a mini wood cage over a screen glue on the box with some nurse bees with the queen. The post office
    will take care of the shipping. Ship them at the right temperature range of 60-80F should be fine when weather permits.
    Don't mix foreign bees into a virgin hive. She might get balled 100% of the time! When will you ever learn, huh?

  12. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampCat View Post
    Not really sure what the lineage of the queen might be. I have assembled a variety of swarms, splits, a few purchased nucs, and a few purchased queens. I actually have 24 hives altogether and this is the first hive I lost this winter. The others I have looked in are looking good. Always been treatment free.
    swampcat is located in southwestern arkansas.
    journaling the growth of a (mite) treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

  13. #32
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    I am in the mountains about 25 miles SW of Lexington VA. I have been treatment free since I started in 2007. I have started using OAV twice a year in August and Dec/Jan. I have 6 hives and will expand this year to 10-12.

  14. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by billabell View Post
    I am in the mountains about 25 miles SW of Lexington VA. I have been treatment free since I started in 2007. I have started using OAV twice a year in August and Dec/Jan. I have 6 hives and will expand this year to 10-12.
    How are you treatment free if you're using oxalic acid?

  15. #34
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    Crivitz, WI

  16. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by nlk3233 View Post
    How are you treatment free if you're using oxalic acid?
    Maybe you should read squarepegs initial post when he started this thread and other members posts in this thread. Treatment free to me is not putting chemicals in the hives. Oxalic acid is an organic compound found throughout the natural environment. I suppose if you feed you would consider that to be a treatment would you not? Actually just opening the hive and manipulating the frames and bees under the strictest definition is a treatment. What do you do?

  17. #36
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    You are quite right, by my own fault I didn't realize Squarepeg laid out lax treatment free standards. I have a lot of respect for him and what he has documented so that's not meant disrespectfully towards him at all.
    I don't want to pollute this thread with dribble about what treatment free is. All I can say is buy your bees from a source not using treatments, whether they be soft or harsh. And get better bees. But to answer your question, I put nothing in my hives. Just frames and bees. Occasional honey frame if they need it.

  18. #37
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    Oxalic Acid is a CHEMICAL used to kill mites. Sugar syrup does indeed contain chemicals, but is not used for killing mites. There's a difference in planning to become treatment free, and being treatment free. I assumed this threat was about being treatment free, but I suppose I was wrong. Should we have to ask self proclaimed "treatment free beekeepers" if they treat now? Lol

  19. #38
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    You weren't wrong SR. Treatment free means exactly what it says, no treatments for mites of any sort. This includes brood breaks, hard chemicals, soft chemicals, drone brood removal, etc.

    The only acceptable "treatment" IMO is to requeen a colony if found with mite damage. I have one colony that needs to be requeened later this year and I have two other colonies with Beeweaver queens that will be requeened at the same time. I've got breeder queens picked out and will put them to use soon.
    NW Alabama, 50 years, 20 colonies and growing, sideliner, treatment free since 2005, 14 frame square Dadant broodnest

  20. #39
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    >You weren't wrong SR. Treatment free means exactly what it says, no treatments for mites of any sort.

    I would say it means no treatments for mites, or nosema, or AFB, or EFB, or waxmoths, or chalkbrood, or anything else...
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 42y 40h 39yTF

  21. #40
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    There is a saying in the cattle industry that "The meat packer is generally your best health care specialist". Beekeepers can take this to mean a new disease/pest tolerant queen is cheap modern health care. I'd take more drastic measures if I found AFB.
    NW Alabama, 50 years, 20 colonies and growing, sideliner, treatment free since 2005, 14 frame square Dadant broodnest

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