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    Default Honey thieves - western Minnesota

    Supers stolen, just before they were going to be pulled for extraction. http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/09/03/bee-honey-theft
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    Investigators believe the thief used a large vehicle or trailer, donned protective clothing and committed the crime at night when bees are the tamest.

    No doubt, none of the investigators are beekeepers.
    To everything there is a season....

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    Guess all the bees where tucked in at that time and slept through the crime.
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    Unbelievable. What's wrong with people? What kind of thief replaces stolen supers with empty ones? Obviously someone with beekeeping experience but weird. Never would have thought that someone would try to steal supers or bees or whatever from a hive.

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    I believe is was carried out by aliens (Spacemen). They have learned of it's health benefits.

    Time to get the aluminum foil hats out again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeMoose View Post

    Time to get the aluminum foil hats out again!
    This type of bee theft has been reported before. A Beesource member wrote about it happening to his hives on these forums.

    I don't think he imagined it. It wasn't space aliens.

    Wayne

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    We have had it happen to us and on an even larger scale quite a few years ago. On the flip side we also once had a yard supered up by some workers of a nearby operation who apparently had trouble reading their map.
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    It is simply the gross decline of the moral character of humanity as a whole, Shame has all but disappeared within modern society. There are no boundaries. Just look at the number of people who come to this site asking how to move hives. Because no one has seen the owner in months. The suspected thief was probably taking possession of the hives because no one had been see tending them for months. That would explain why he placed empties back on.
    If caught the perpetrator will probably get a slap on the wrist.

    I see what has become acceptable within my lifetime. Following the same rate of progression imagine what is to come over the next 50 years.
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    Yes people nowadays are shamelessly immoral compared to those from the "golden years".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenbears View Post
    It is simply the gross decline of the moral character of humanity as a whole, Shame has all but disappeared within modern society. There are no boundaries. Just look at the number of people who come to this site asking how to move hives. Because no one has seen the owner in months. The suspected thief was probably taking possession of the hives because no one had been see tending them for months. That would explain why he placed empties back on.
    If caught the perpetrator will probably get a slap on the wrist.

    I see what has become acceptable within my lifetime. Following the same rate of progression imagine what is to come over the next 50 years.

    Well as one who has recently asked about moving hives who are not mine because the owner has not taken care of them on leased land, don't just lump us all in the criminal boat. I never received any confirmation that the original owner was fine letting them go so I didn't pursue it any further. All I was trying to do is do my homework...

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    Supering is smart, they can always claim their 'workers' went to the wrong yard.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRG13 View Post
    Supering is smart, they can always claim their 'workers' went to the wrong yard.....
    Maybe that's really what happened, confused workers at wrong yard. It doesn't even make sense to steal supers. Still have to deal with the bees, extract, bottle, sell etc. Just seems like a thief could get more return on his time taking just about anything else or even, crazy idea here, getting a job. Just having trouble understanding the thought process.

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    I am a bit surprised that someone would be surprised about a theft. People steal all sorts of things. There are probably a lot more would be thieves, except thier afraid of getting caught. But given the right circumstances, they would take something that doesn't belong to them and not even consider themselves a thief.
    I hope the super switch was someone's mistake and they discover the error and make it right. Seems odd that someone would leave other boxes and frames.

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    Whoever did it was a beekeeper or I should say understood beekeeping, just sayin that no one else would know what to take. Could it be a revolving deal where the stolen boxes find their way to someone else's yard empty and so on?

    Ya, getting job, as long as there is no drug test or the need to report on time or stay all day, probably hurtles that the thieves could not do. If they replaced the supers with some they had stole and extracted in the past, that may be a lead.

    Imagine a craigslist ad stating honey for sale, will trade for meth...

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    I'm not suprised by theft, just the theft of supers. Most criminals steal things that can be turned into cash or drugs fast like electronics, guns, meat, catalytic converters, copper, prescription pills, cash, jewelry, tools etc. Just a few supers of honey and replacing with empty supers doesn't make sense. Either way it sucks and I'd be worried what diseases might have been in the new supers.

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    The original story about the theft is inadequate, and perhaps even misleading - what are "trays" in the boxes that were also left? Perhaps the author meant "frames"! If so, all the more likely that someone harvested the wrong hives by mistake - no real crook is likely to leave boxes (and trays/frames). If the hives are not adequately identified, the beekeeper bears some fault. North Dakota now requires every apiary to have name, address, and contact information prominantly displayed AND every hive must have the North Dakota beekeeper number on each hive or they may be considered abandoned by the authorities. If the beekeeper properly identified his property, it would have eliminated any possibility of "mistake", and only "stupidity" could be claimed as the excuse. The problem apparently arose because unknown commercial beekeepers were dropping off many hives without authority, and without identification when problems arose. Getting a ND license is simple, and cheap. Essentially, name,, address, contact information, $5, and 15 cents for each possible hive. My license total was $6.50 based upon a dream that 3 hives may split, so I paid for ten - when it's cheap, you can afford to be optimistic!

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    The point here is that just because a guy rides a harley does not necessarily mean he is "cool" and should be let into the gang. Same goes for duck hunting. Just cuz a guy has camo clothes, waders, and a shotgun does not mean you give him the keys to the clubhouse and this same thing applies to beekeepers. There is a bad one in Minnesota and I bet there might be a bad one in my state as well. Keep an eye on your stuff and keep your apiaries clean and well cared for. Make an appearance every so often. Call people if you have bees on their land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waynesgarden View Post
    This type of bee theft has been reported before. A Beesource member wrote about it happening to his hives on these forums.

    I don't think he imagined it. It wasn't space aliens.

    Wayne
    This was said totally in jest in a moment of levity I experienced this morning. I apologize if your humorous bone was removed and you cannot find it funny.
    And how can you say definitely that it was NOT space aliens?!

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    Default Re: Honey thieves - western Minnesota

    Several previous threads about honey / colony theft.

    Put an identififying metal strip in a drill hole in the notch of a finger box joint before assembling the hive, and get a branding iron.

    I'll make a punishment chamber for the culprits - electric iron maiden with Africanized Honey Bees in it.

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