Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation
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  1. #1
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    Default Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation

    So I took some of last years frames that had gotten wax moth damage and froze them - after freezing rather than just give them directly back to the bees I changed my mind because the wax just didn't look very good and scraped the tops off - I then gave them back to the bees but they are either refusing to draw on them and just skipping them altogether or they are only partially drawing on the frames - should I just discard them and give them new foundation?

    Should I have re-waxed them?

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    Default Re: Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation

    What kind of foundation? Some, like Duragilt, if it's down to the smooth plastic, the bees will not redraw those spots into comb.

    Rusty
    Rusty Hills Farm -- home of AQHA A Rusty Zipper and Rusty's Bees.

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    Default Re: Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation

    my bees draw out the old smooth foundation

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    Default Re: Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation

    Bees can be quite reluctant to build on bare plastic if there is wax foundation or foundationless spaces to build comb. If the wax moths ate the wax off the plastic, leaving it bare, I would scrape them and then re-coat with fresh wax to insure that there are no bare spots.

    My limited experience with plastic foundation is that you need to have all plastic or all wax, at least here. They will draw anything on a strong flow, but if the nectar is slow coming in, they will usually ignore plastic foundation, or do stuff like draw comb between the frames or "ladder" comb in stripes perpendicular to the foundation.

    Peter

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    Default Re: Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by psfred View Post
    they will usually ignore plastic foundation, or do stuff like draw comb between the frames or "ladder" comb in stripes perpendicular to the foundation.
    This has been my experience, especially with Duragilt.

    Rusty
    Rusty Hills Farm -- home of AQHA A Rusty Zipper and Rusty's Bees.

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    Default Re: Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Hills Farm View Post
    What kind of foundation?
    It is just standard Dadant plastic foundation

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    Default Re: Bees leaving gaps in 'old' plastic foundation

    Melt some wax and re coat it

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