I have now started nine Warres for other people and one for myself after getting about 42 years experience with Langstroth hives and operating over 100 of them. I only started one for myself because I won it here on Beesource as a raffle prize. The advantages and benefits between the two is crystal clear to me.
It was a surprise to me that Bernard promoted "Warre" hives but primarily publishes pictures of "Warre" hives with frames. I would imagine that most of the participants in Beesource are Americans, few even know what a Warre hive is, and that those who do, consider a Warre hive to be a TOPBAR hive. The only Warre hives with frames marketed here in the USA that I know of, are clearing sold as a different entity, a Modified Warre hive. I would imagine that the percentage of Warre hives with frames in the USA is very small. To me a Warre hive with frames is just a miniature Langstroth with a deceptive name. The management of a topbar hive and a framed hive is very different. As we discuss the benefits and problems with Warre hives, lets be very clear if we are talking about a topbar Warre or a framed Warre.
I would think that the problems Honey for All's package purchasers have had were because of the difference in management between a framed and topbar hives. Also, most beginners accepting the dogma of a Warre hive are also treatment free, possibly leading to greater losses for Honey-For-All's customers. I would not called a topbar Warre "Rube Goldberg", I would call it old fashioned, lacking in the ease of management that a framed hive gives us.