Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup
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    Default Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    So I put a queen cell that I cut out of comb into a queenless nuc and they ripped her apart. I purchased those orange queen protectors but notice they don't split apart and are designed for graft cups to sit inside.

    Is there a way to protect a cutout of comb queen cell transplanted into a queenless hive until she hatches?

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    Does your queenless nuc have laying workers?

    If not you might have a queen. could be a virgin.

    Did your nuc swarm?
    How long has it bee queenless?

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    Would heavy duty aluminum foil work to form an enclosure?
    Janne....first hives April 2013, 19 hives, treat, plant zone 8b, at sea level, latitude 49.13, longitude 123.06

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerPlanter View Post
    Does your queenless nuc have laying workers?

    If not you might have a queen. could be a virgin.

    Did your nuc swarm?
    How long has it bee queenless?
    Sorry... my terminology is off.... its a "finisher" nuc.

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    Quote Originally Posted by WBVC View Post
    Would heavy duty aluminum foil work to form an enclosure?
    I will try this. I seen a photo of someone else doing this, but didn't know if its a norm. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    metal window screen works. wrap it around a dowel and pinch and fold over the end

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    I bought these roller cages off ebay. The ones from glorybee.com didn't have a cap for both ends but these do.
    5x Beekeeping Queen Bee Rearing Cell Roller Cages w/ Cell Cup Holder & Fixture
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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/5x-Beekeepin...08361052&rt=nc

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    I have one in a mini mating nuc now waiting to hatch. I'll get a better feel for how they work tonight when I harvest the 6 queen cells in one hive and put them in the cages to hatch out the virgins. I built a special holder for my topbar hive to keep them in.
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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    I use roller cages, I cut a plug of extra wax above the cell and use this to mash around the top to seal off the roller cage. If the bees are determined to kill the cell, they can chew through it though and get in, so sealing it off with a different cap the bees can't chew through is probably better, but for the most part it's not an issue.

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    Default Re: Protect Queen from Cutout Comb instead of Graft Bar cup

    Just checked my first group of cells in the roller cages. Only 1 in 5 hatched. The other 4 were riddled with SHB larvae. What was the difference in the one that did hatch? I had added 2 workers inside the cage with the queen cell. Nice fat queen too. Now she is in a queenless nuc with a marshmellow in the bottom of the roller cage.

    I put round #2 in the roller cages and this time added workers to each cage as well.

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