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    Default Queen Cell question

    Do the following look like queen cells?

    On April 21st, I did an even split of my hive.

    On the 27th, I saw eight cells like the following. Are these capped queen cells? The look much smaller than the last one I saw.

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    Today, May 5th, the cells I saw earlier look like this.



    They definitely look like they have hatched. A week is too quick for them to hatch right?
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    Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: Queen Cell question

    It's a little hard to tell what I'm seeing. But I think I'm seeing a lot of torn down queen cells. I don't see any that look like they emerged. Then again some of them may be drone cells or just cups. A photo looking up would help. Then maybe we could see if the cells were capped, had a larvae etc.
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    I think you have a queenright hive. Those cells look to have been torn open. Somebody changed their mind?

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    I don't know how the split would be queenright. I didn't see a queen in the split yesterday and I found my marked queen in the donor hive.

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    Default Re: Queen Cell question

    You probably have a virgin in the hive that is really good at not being found. I would agree with MB and vikingjim, the cells look like they were torn open on the side, usual action of the first emerging virgin.

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    Well I learned something today. I thought that the queens killed each other after they'd emerged. It can take two weeks to see eggs from a virgin queen right?

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    >I thought that the queens killed each other after they'd emerged.

    If they all killed each other that would never work out well...

    >It can take two weeks to see eggs from a virgin queen right?

    It can take three weeks. It usually takes two weeks.

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    Default Re: Queen Cell question

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    >I thought that the queens killed each other after they'd emerged.

    If they all killed each other that would never work out well...
    Heh, I suppose I should say the strongest one would kill the rest

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    Default Re: Queen Cell question

    Actually, they "pipe" in the cells, and the first one to emerge will usually eliminate the rest. However, the bees can and will protect the new queens and keep them in the cells for a few days during swarm season, allowing several to emerge and swarm with a portion of the bees after the old queen has left with half the original hive.

    Always a good sign you have a supercedure going when you hear queens piping. Always happens to me just when I want to do a split, which isn't possible any more when there is not brood....

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    Default Re: Queen Cell question

    I found 2 more queen cells in my donor hive Tuesday (5/5/15) and went to split them again yesterday(5/715) and they had been torn open from the side... the caps were still in place. I guess my existing queen didn't feel like leaving. Her brood pattern is still great and she's only a year old. Thing about this hive is that is booming. I've done two splits from it already (both at least 10 frame) and they are getting ready to need another super because they are still running out of space.

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