Ring shank Nails or Staples?
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    Default Ring shank Nails or Staples?

    Which do you prefer and what size when building boxes?

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    Staples and screws with TB3 glue. Most of my woodenware is made using rabbet joints. I use a couple of staples to hold things together before I use screws. An impact driver works the best for driving screws.
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    I generally use good quality deck screws with water resistant glue, but the screws can be quite expensive. So, I have considered switching to ring shank nails. Their holding power is great, and they cost less than screws. I'm not a big fan of staples for hive bodies. I prefer a larger mechanical fastener.

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    I use both staples and ring shank nails on my hive bodies. I glue the joints and staple the parts together. Then I go back and hand drive the ring shank nails.
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    2" ? 1 3/4" ? 1/2" crown or 3/8" crown?

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    Senco 2" with a 7/16 crown is what we use. Made in the USA!!

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    Maze double dipped galvanized 7d box nails. Made in Peru, Illinois.

    Crazy Roland

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    I use ringshank nails (and Tightbond III). They go in as fast as regular nails, but with much greater holding power.
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    (1975-1980, and now since 2011; maintain about 10 hives; Zone 5b; 15" rain; 5500')

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    Default Re: Ring shank Nails or Staples?

    Definitely ring shank. Screws take too long

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    When I put hives together I do dozens at a time, the advantage to screws is they don't tend to work loose. but good glue aids in limiting movement. I use Tight bond III and 2' X 1/4 " crown staples. I staple each rabbit. Fast, and last.

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    I use 2 inch staples with a 1/2 inch crown. No glue. One staple for every finger of the box joint. Can build up to 40 boxes an hour.

    Strength is not problem. A couple of time some boxes full of honey have fallen off the trailer and a most have not lost their square.

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    image.jpgI use galvanized .118 2 3/8 ring shank with a 2" deck screw in the bottom corner no need for glue. But I do use glue and 2" 3/8 crown 16 ga for the lifting cleat two on ends and three in the middle then clench over the protruding staple leg inside the box.
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    I will absolutely agree with Roland. Number 7 galvanized box nails all the way. I tend to see number 6 nails all over, but the number 7 nails are just a bit longer. They are better in my opinion. Those double dipped are nice, but you may have to order them to get them. I use number 4 galvanized nails on the ears along the top edge. Be sure to drill that top one and it will not split. Oh, and TBII on every joint.

    I tend to think that the texture of the galvanized nails have a better purchase on the wood. Thus they hold better.

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    I am with Allen. We use 1 1/2 inch staples no glue. We can assemble ,put frames in and paint 400 boxes in a day with three guys. We tried nails once but to many missed the mark. Staples hold better than nails and you can put them closer to the edges.

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    NE beekeeper - try a Maze 5d box in the upper spot.

    Crazy Roland

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    I use 1/2" x 1 3/4" galvanized staples with no glue. Assembling with a couple clamps make the joints nice and tight. I've assembled with and without glue and when using clamps to get the joints as tight as possible I see no difference.

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    I glue with TB II and use 2 1/2" sheet rock screws to hold it all together. Wish I would have just done it this way from the beginning as I have a few boxes warping and coming apart at the joints even when glue was used on them.
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    TB3 and 2" staples with 7/16" crown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke'm View Post
    I am with Allen. We use 1 1/2 inch staples no glue. We can assemble ,put frames in and paint 400 boxes in a day with three guys. We tried nails once but to many missed the mark. Staples hold better than nails and you can put them closer to the edges.
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    Staples 2 inch. Boxes only last 7 to 8 yrs hate to spend to much time on them they just rot out anyways

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