I don't post very much, but here is the problem I have with the treatment vs treatment free debate and the new member advise.
1. If you treat aparently that's the only way to do things.
2. If your treatment free aparently there's 500 other "treatment free" things your have to do to keep bees alive; ie wrap, mite counts, the million wintering "tricks", screened bottoms, etc etc the "list" (and don't critisice me for natural vs treatment free vs that's not a treatment here, I'm generalizing.)
3. There's the commercial treatment way vs the hobby treatment way vs the treatment free hobby way vs the (few mind you) treatment free commercial way vs the I just have a hive a tree in my backyard way.
4. There's the well you don't run your hives for honey way vs the I just want to help the garden way vs everything else.
You guys get the point I'm making, there are obviously different things needed for different scenarios ( as with everything in life) and to be honest, in large part I don't hear many different percentages for losses from TF beekeeper as I do treatment beekeepers.
If a commercial guy treat because that's what dad did, and that's what's working, why fix what isn't broke? If the guy down the road has success being TF why would he fix what isn't broke?
I think more beekeepers are to blame for dead bees than chemicals, mites, winter, and starvation combined. ( gonna catch some flak for that one) So personally I'm tired of both sides of the fence. I think the problem lies with people doing to much to there hives, TF and T, just leave them be bees.
The only thing that matters is what you want, I dump my bees in a box, and then don't even look at the hive for months, my bees are alive. That's what I want bees, because that's what I sell. I don't treat or do anything special to my hives, but there are many locally that do, that's A ok to, they get what they want from there hives.