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    Default A Gallon of 5:3 Sugar Syurp

    How much sugar and water does it take to make a gallon of 5:3 sugar syurp. I don't have a scale to weigh everything out. I only have measuring cups, pints, and quarts measurers. If I want to add HBH to the gallon of 5:3 syrup, how much should I add?
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    Default Re: A Gallon of 5:3 Sugar Syurp

    I just made some today. I put 15 cups of water and 25 cups of sugar. It made just slightly more than 1 gallon.

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    when bee keeps talk about 1to 1 ,,,, 2 to 1 ,,, 5 to 3 ,, we are talking about cups ,, qt ,, or gal not pounds ,, we are talking about volume oz not pound oz ,, I know its confusing ,,, a cup of sugar to a cup of water ,, qt of sugar to a qt of water so 5 to 3 is 5 cups sugar to 3 cups water , sugar is always first then water ,,,

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    Default Re: A Gallon of 5:3 Sugar Syurp

    When dealing with sugar and water, a pint of either weighs about a pound. Not exactly but close enough for syrup.

    Since there are 8 pints to a gallon, 5 pints (10 cups) sugar and 3 pints (6 cups) water will give you a 5:3 syrup.

    since they are so close in weight, it doesn't much matter whether you weigh or use measuring cups.
    There is a small difference, but not a big enough one for the bees to care about.

    Michael bush gives the mnemonic " A pint's a pound the whole world round" to help remember by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGrounds View Post
    I just made some today. I put 15 cups of water and 25 cups of sugar. It made just slightly more than 1 gallon.
    LOL! Define just slightly! A gallon is 16 cups and you have a total of 40 cups in your recipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralittlefield View Post
    A gallon is 16 cups and you have a total of 40 cups in your recipe.
    While the recipe may total 40 cups, the finished syrup does not.

    The next confusion seems to be on how much it takes to make how much syrup. The volume of 10 pints of water and 10 pints of sugar will make about 15 pints of syrup, not 20. The sugar and the water fit together.

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    Water obviously weighs 16oz per pint, by definition. Sugar, however, weighs 14 oz per pint.
    The Domino Sugar Company has established the following volume to weight conversions:[82]
    • Brown sugar 1 cup = 48 teaspoons ~ 195 g = 6.88 oz
    • Granular sugar 1 cup = 48 teaspoons ~ 200 g = 7.06 oz
    • Powdered sugar 1 cup = 48 teaspoons ~ 120 g = 4.23 oz
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    It seems like a simple way to make 5:3 is to start with a 5 lb bag of sugar, and add 3 lbs of water. Since each pint of water is a pound, that would be 3 pints of water added to the 5 lb bag of sugar.
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    Default Re: A Gallon of 5:3 Sugar Syurp

    15 cups of sugar and 9 cups of water makes a little more than a gallon (about a cup or so more).

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    I used to get down to the decimal for measuring. Then I read a post something like pound cup gallon - all the same. The brits say pint or pound the world around or something.

    Were feeding bees, not mixing potions. A gallon is 8+ lbs. so for 5 sugar:3 water pour a gallon of water in a bucket and stir in 13 pounds of sugar. For a 10# bag of sugar, use a quart and a half of water. Close enough considering I've read everything from 1:1 to 2:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T152 View Post
    15 cups of sugar and 9 cups of water makes a little more than a gallon (about a cup or so more).
    Yep....that's what I found out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bhfury View Post
    Yep....that's what I found out.

    Glad we were able to help you!

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    10# of sugar would need 3 quarts of water if making 5:3 syrup.
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    Winner and correct answer!
    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    10# of sugar would need 3 quarts of water if making 5:3 syrup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    10# of sugar would need 3 quarts of water if making 5:3 syrup.
    How many gallons or quarts does that make?
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    Default Re: A Gallon of 5:3 Sugar Syurp

    5 pounds to 3 pints

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    Default Re: A Gallon of 5:3 Sugar Syurp

    about a gallon and a half

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingbrass View Post
    about a gallon and a half
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    Hi: You can buy a cheap digital scale on line for less than $15.00. I found mine on a close out for less than $6.
    an example: http://www.tmart.com/5kg-x-1g-17-Dig...e_p152963.html or
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/55-LB-x-0-1-...item337bb7824e
    I use the tare function and a wide mouth ~two gallon "pretzel" bottle to make my syrup. Zero the empty bottle weight. For a 5:3 mix, add 5 lbs of sugar and the scale reads 5 lbs+/-. add 3 lbs of warm water, cap and shake well then pour into your feeder. I make multiple batches if I need more.
    In the Spring I use 1:1, and in the Fall, I use 2:1. I add a drop or so of lemongrass oil to retard mold, and I feed internally to reduce robbing and add entrance reducers to weaker hives.
    I find this easy, accurate enough, and neat - little sticky syrup except in my bottle. Paul
    BTW, If your feeder doesn't hold the whole batch, the remainder keeps pretty well in the jug; when I need to make more syrup, I put the bottle and remaining syrup on the scale, and zero the tare, and start the process again - I have more in the bottle, but the ratio stays relatively consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbuhler View Post
    Hi: You can buy a cheap digital scale on line for less than $15.00.
    I really think that you are working too hard at this. The mix does not need to be precise. All we want to do is feed some sugar to the bees. Some people have water that does not readily dissolve sugar and getting a 2:1 ratio is difficult, so they use 5:3, which is simply less sugar. There is nothing magical about hitting exact proportions. Just get some sugar to your bees. Determine how much sugar your bees need and use the amount of water that you need to dissolve the sugar. This time of year, the less water that they have to evaporate the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhfury View Post
    How many gallons or quarts does that make?
    Not nearly enough.

    Just make your syrup with 5 or 10 pound bags of sugar. A colony can take in a lot of syrup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeCurious View Post
    Not nearly enough.

    Just make your syrup with 5 or 10 pound bags of sugar. A colony can take in a lot of syrup.
    The question was more for the size of pan to make it and what is being delivered to the bees. I think I use my turkey fryer and a paint stirrer attached to my electric drill the next batch I make.
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