Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?
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    Default Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    I know this is old school but I was wondering if any one uses these little square boxes for comb honey?

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Walter T. Kelley i believe sells them.

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Get them at Walter T Kelley Bee Supply.

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Hey, I have some of those but not sure how they go together. Someone gave me a bunch of them in a box, along with a stainless square cutter and some thin foundation. I am still not sure how to put them together and how do you get the bees to draw out that foundation?
    Robee

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Dadant sells some comb honey supplies. I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for.


    I know they have the comb cutter, the boxes and strange plastic square frames for that sort of manipulation

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Just happened to run across this thread as a number of years ago I was heavy into comb honey production in the basswood boxes. From what I've seemed to locate everything has gravitated to the cut comb style if one wants the inclusion of the comb. I can see why the bees didn't like to work through the wooden slats. We use to force a two brood supered hive into a single brood super and then place on a super of the comb honey boxes and add on a second when need be.. The hive's population was excessive for a single brood super, but it worked. The one drawback was that a beekeeper had to be proactive and check such comb honey hive(s) weekly to clean out any queen cells.

    So has that old method of comb honey, not cut comb, production fallen by the wayside?

    Not really interested to get into that aspect again, but just wondering.

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Not a lot of people doing sections anymore. It is a specialists game and there are easier ways. I am tempted to try dadants beeopac or brushymountain apparently resurrected the hoggs halfcombs. This gentleman makes his own sections and frames and it looks easier for the bees.

    http://www.beebehavior.com/romanov_comb_sections.php

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    With all lack of humility, I think what has faded is the beekeeping skills needed to maneuver the hives in position to make section comb honey. It is not a case where you can just plop on the Comb honey supers and walk away. The other reason may bee that a dependable and predictable honey flow is almost a necessity, something which our current weather patterns have not provided.

    Crazy Roland

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    You don't have to be humble if you can do it Roland! The honeyflow does matter a lot. What would happen in your opinion if you put a miller feeder full of honey on top of the stack? What I lack in skill I make up for in brute force and low cunning.

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    You would have some mighty expensive comb honey. My guess is it would take 2 lbs of honey to fill 1 lb of comb honey. You have the loss for the wax production, and teh metabolic and transfer loss.

    Prudence prevailed the last 2 years, we saw it was futile to put out the basswood sections, so we passed. The hives where ready to go, but the plants and weather was not. It would have been crazy to do so.

    Crazy Roland

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    "Sections may be folded by hand or by means of a section press, by which the section is pressed together firmly and squarely. When sections are too dry to fold without breaking the boxes containing them should be placed on a damp concrete floor several days before the sections are to be folded. The floor may be sprinkled and the containers turned to allow the moisture to penetrate all of the V-grooves. A dampened rug or carpet thrown over the boxes is a great help, or the cartons may be sprinkled from time to time. When folding sections, there should not be any dry cracking sound and the sections should fold smoothly. I do not recommend pouring water along the V-grooves s the water will cause the outside surface of the section to become rough. The sections should not remain damp-ened any longer than required for folding as they may mildew, staining the sections.

    "The section press is a standard make. I added a rack for holding about 30 sections as I was always forced to remove some unfolded sections from my lap each time empty supers were needed. The rack is conveniently located just in front of the operator and sections are always within easy reach. A board is hinged to the top of the press which can be clamped to the workbench and makes the press more sturdy. The press can be easily removed and taken out of the way in a jiffy, if it is not needed.

    "During the folding of sections, one sits on a small stool in front of the press. An empty super, with an inner cover nailed on, is placed on the floor to the right of the press on which to stack the supers as they are being filled. The open carton of sections and the T tins are placed nearby on the table. The empty super is set on the inner cover and the three T tins placed in position. As the sections are folded they are put directly in the super. It is best to have all dovetails down when placing the sections in the super as it adds to the appearance of the section. We also turn the dovetails away from each end of the super, as later when the sections are being scraped, the scraper will not catch so easily on the dove-tails. About six supers can be filled before it is necessary to remove them to another place in the shop or until we are ready to fasten in the foundation. When the sections are folded the wood is somewhat damp and it is best to wait a couple of days before fastening the foundation as the drying of the wood may loosen the wax from the section."--Carl Killion, Honey in the Comb

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    I hope to republish Carl's book in the near future...
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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    MB beat me to it. Find and read a copy of Carl Killion's Honey in the comb. The management of your bees the most important step in securing a fine crop of marketable sections. Very few beekeepers using these basswood sections any more. When everything comes together, it is a wonderful sense of accomplishment.
    "dependable and predictable honey flow is almost a necessity" So true, I am beginning to wonder if that will ever return.

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Me too.

    Crazy Roalnd

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Would love to have a section press. Basswood comb is beautiful. I hate folding those boxes by hand. I switched to Ross rounds. I'll do Ross rounds until I'm lucky enough to find a press. Sell out every year. I price it at $1 an oz. I do one Ross round per a regular hive. Put it on at the beginning of a strong flow with a extraction super on top of it. Usually get all of the rounds filled. I have a couple of consistent boomer hives (need to make queens from them) that will easily do 4 -5 Ross supers in a good flow.

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    Why not get a piece of ply wood and cut out cycles to allow you to put jars inverted onto it. Drip some wax in a line across the bottom of the jars. Surround with a super box and put on the hive. Comb honey without the sticky fingers

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    Default Re: Anyone use or know where I can get the wooden square frames used for comb Honey?

    >Would love to have a section press.

    Unless you find one used, I think you'll have to make one. There is a picture of one in the links I posted which together with a basswood box to get dimensions off of, might show enough detail to figure it out.
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