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  1. #21
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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    Here's a source for higher percentage vinegar:

    Marshall Grain Company

    No connection to them or their products. I still would rather use mulch. (Lay carboard down first.)

    Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek View Post
    That's a man that has his priorities in line.

    Always thinking......

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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    Is it just me or anyone else getting the munchies for potato chips or fries???
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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    Vinegar - acidic. Salt - alkaline. Put them together and they would neutralize.

    Salt by itself controls weeds, if it is salty enough. Whenever we make homemade ice cream, we always dump the salty ice water on the asparagus to control weeds, since asparagus doesn't mind the salt.

    A lot of fertilizers are salts. Put them on too thick, and they burn the plants. But a little salt encourages growth. We have acidic soils here, so salts are good for soil ph too.

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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    I use Gramoxone (Paraquat) and Goal (Oxyflurofen) to burn down weeds in the almonds in late winter along with Simazine and Surflan (Oryzalin) for pre-emergence control which lasts for several months.

    In August I use Round-up to get the entire orchard floor clean before harvest. For the last several years I have been having a problem with Nut Grass and White Clover which are resistant to Round-up. I have had fair results on these two tough weeds with a newer herbicide, Rely (Glufosinate-ammonium) which is more expensive than Round-up.

    One thing is for sure, herbicides are very expensive and I have to use more every year as the weeds are becoming resistant.

    There is no way I would use salt because even low levels of sodium is death on almonds.
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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    FWIW, table salt (NaCl) is not alkaline. It's Ph neutral.

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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    Round-up:
    Here is what really worked on Johnson grass and it's rhizomes with one application!
    Mix one tablespoon of ammonium sulfate per gallon of Round - up.
    Ammonium nitrate worked better, but it's now called calcium nitrate and it will clog your sprayer nozzels. You can see the leaves curl and dieing within hours of spraying on a hot day. if you can spray early in the morning the plants stomates are open and the spray material can get into the plant easier.
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    FWIW, table salt (NaCl) is not alkaline. It's Ph neutral.

    The ions , Na plus, and Cl negative, can really screw up your soil chemistry and structure for a very long time.
    The Roman Empire was reported to salt the soil of their vanquished and conguered subjects with salt!
    Her in the west we are very no on adding these two ions to our soil because of our low precipitation and growing crops on ancient sea floors and that's why we use a lot of gypsum and acid rendering fertilizers.
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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    To add salt to a weed treatment to prevent plant growth isnt good for the soil, regardless how much vinegar you use. Once the salt is mixed in the soil, it either has to wash away, or get taken away in plant form. There isnt alot of plant we like to grow that favours salty soils,
    All I am saying, is ditch the salt in your treatment, it isnt going to help the plant that you are trying to grow
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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    if it's just a small area, maybe boiling water?

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    Propane torch... Fun for the whole family...At least fun for the boys of all ages in the family...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cow pollinater View Post
    Propane torch... Fun for the whole family...At least fun for the boys of all ages in the family...
    dontcha know playin' with matches will cause ya to wet the bed

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    I hadn't heard anything about wetting the bed but I just about messed my shorts up clearing out an overgrown garden with some very dry beehives placed nearby once... On the upside that particular patch is reletivly weed free this year.

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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    A vinegar mixture is my weed killer of choice. It's natural, cheap and also pet and child friendly. I found a great recipe for it at Weed Killer Central. They also have other great tips about how other possible natural weed killers.

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    Normally I pull the weeds and use my weeding hoe. Things got out of hand this year and I had to use the field mower (overgrown week wacker). Others say bees hate weed whackers but they didn't seem to mind.
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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Adding salt to your soil isnt really good for the soil,
    I would say roundup would do less harm to your soil health than that of your treatment.
    Dont forget about everything else that lives in your soil,
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    They must know my weeds
    Quote Originally Posted by BGhoney View Post
    I tried straight vinegar on some weeds around the yard, they loved it, never looked so green.
    Quote Originally Posted by bhfury View Post
    Here in Farmington we could only find the 5% and it did work worth a hoot an the weeds.
    This is an old thread. But I have never had the weeds I kill with vinegar not come right back. It kills the foliage, but not the roots. It actually does a good job at that. I did several applications last year and none of them ever did permanently kill anything.

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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    So acetic acid, or sodium acetate and hydrochloric acid are considered non-toxic?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackblack View Post
    A vinegar mixture is my weed killer of choice. It's natural, cheap and also pet and child friendly..

    Nothing natural about adding all that salt to your soil. Read the previous posts in this thread.

    Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by maudbid View Post
    So acetic acid, or sodium acetate and hydrochloric acid are considered non-toxic?

    I heard that glacial acetic acid works the best.
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    Default Re: All natural weed killer (say no to Round-Up)

    This is making it's rounds, as more people are finding roundup is not as safe as once thought.

    The recipe says to use Epson salt, dawn and vinegar.

    Epson salt is used in many fertilizers.

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