I have combined swarms a few times and everything worked out fine using the newspaper method. All of mine were placed in nuc boxes and allowed to become established before combining. I assume the queens fought and one took over. Never had one swarm leave but I have only done it 8-10 times. As for the other question, I'm not sure if the swarm queen would kill the emerging queens or try to leave agin.
I think it's all about the timing and the season. This time of year and in our location, its really all up to the girls. Chances are that you will maintain the hive plus some.
It's a prefect time in NC to make splits, or put swarms in new boxes.
The queeen stoped laying because they are ready to swarm and she need to lighten her load to be able to fly. The queen cells/virgin are her replacement. I think you need to split the hive whith the original queen, leave the cells/virgins in the original to figure out the rest. You have a small window to make several indepedent hives; make it work to your advantage.
I have a small hive with no queen. I just captured a nice swarm and combined them using the newspaper method, but there's one question I've never seen answered:
I have one deep body on top of the bottom board, which is the entrance for the original queenless hive. I put the piece of newspaper over that, then the new hive body containing the swarm. On top of that goes the inner and outer covers?
So, aren't the new swarm trapped? Do I need to leave the top ajar? Or do they eat through the paper in time? Thanks!
>>>What if I combine a swarm with a hive with no laying queen that has ripe queen cells and one or more virgin queens ( I am pretty sure 1 swarm came from this hive) ?
Place a queen excluder above brood nest with ripe cells. Next add a (or 2) super (especally if crowded). Then another excluder and then the hive with swarm.
Leave in this two queen configuration for at least a month. You can then evaluate the two queens and determine the best course of action. Meanwhile, the overall colony should have built up very well by having the combined resources. At this time you can decide on a combine using newspaper or a split.
Thanks for the reassuring responses. I did cut slits in the newspaper, good point that it might allow air to go up. I'll also leave the top slightly ajar, so they can go out, look around and get started!