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    EFB should show up in worker brood too...did you use a test kit on the drone brood?
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    The problem with inspections and foulbrood is: if the bees have been medicated with oxytetracycline then symptoms are suppressed, the colonies LOOK healthy, and that is that. Unless you take samples...
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    That is exactly why using the Vita Life test kits is so important. Then you know what you are dealing with.

    I too have seen a few hinky larvae after treatment with OTC...but that is rare. Maybe...
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    I have been beekeeping for about 12 years. In that time no one has demonstrated a reliable/replicable line of Varroa-proof bees. They have not come to market, and anyone I know who runs treatment...
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    Squarepeg, that was mentioned in the UK's National Bee Unit material and the 2year figure is the time EFB can survive in honey, not on bare comb.

    I can have all my drawn but empty comb irradiated....
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    As you may know I had an EFB catastrophe this spring, with 18 of 20 hives hit simultaneously with EFB in early May. Thinking I had only a case or two I began euthanizing (the surest way of preventing...
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    EFB makes you question everything you have done as a beekeeper...but I seriously doubt giving them "too much room" caused the EFB. If stress were the precipitating factor, every package since the...
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    That is too bad: oxytetracycline just suppresses symptoms and does not clear your infected stores. There is no question that shook swarm is a) more effective in clearing and preventing a return of...
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    Update:

    I have completed the process of medication-shook swarming-medication in my apiary and the two hives that have been off meds for a week have normal open brood...so far. I will monitor them...
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    Also take a close look at the video we have been talking about:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0B9o4GHq7U

    Which details the findings of the UK's National Bee Unit, that when one colony in a...
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    Squarepeg, it sounds as though your strain of EFB was oxytetracycline resistant. I have been fortunate as the brood looks perfect when medicated, indicating the strain I have is not OTC resistant. I...
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    As we have noted throughout this thread, there is a lot we don't know about EFB/AFB, and it seems possible that unintended consequences of medicating may be part of that.

    There are different...
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    Source is the National Bee Unit in the UK. They invest a lot of time and funding into the foulbroods and are an excellent source of information.

    The M-SS-M protocol (medicate-shook swarm-medicate)...
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    Eating this year's contaminated stores will bring with it the risk that your bees will feed EFB to the early winter/spring brood.

    Scrub your smoker bellows with soapy, bleachy water. Ditto all...
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    Here is an example of the gaps in knowledge about the whole challenge of EFB.

    In the UK and Europe, any honey that may have been created during the time when OTC is on the hive or OTC stores are...
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    If you watch that video cited earlier:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0B9o4GHq7U

    If you have EFB (or AFB for that matter) in one colony, let alone several, your counts of the pathogen skyrocket...
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    None of the hives I had this year that were in the requeening process while the EFB was untreated raised queens successfully...not sure if that is typical but makes me go hmmmm.

    Your best option...
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    Nancy is so right, that quote deserves a repeat and a series of tee shirts!

    What you can do right now, while sourcing OTC:

    1. do what you can to prevent spread by either giving each hive their...
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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but watch this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0B9o4GHq7U&t=2014s

    EFB is a lot more serious than we have traditionally thought. Perhaps because new...
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    I think most bee clubs are securing friendly vets who trust that a positive test kit is enough to write a prescription on. So check with your local club(s) and see what your options are. Some feed...
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    Can I second that emotion? It makes no long term sense to move bees to the almonds en masse every year, where they trade pests and diseases, then disperse those all across the continent....often to...
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    "IPM will let you go treatment free"
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    I think it is worth emphasizing again the importance of using the Vita Life kits (which seem to be on back order everywhere this year) to confirm an EFB or AFB diagnosis. The foulbroods will not go...
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    I think we have to be very careful in an examination of that issue Leroy. Ye olde "correllation vs causation" issue. In the Arnot, Seeley has changed his message. At first it was widely thought the...
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    I was going back over this interesting thread and want to comment on the above quote.

    There is a lot of "breed from the best colonies" chatter in the bee world. I don't mean to sound disparaging...
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