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Hoff907
04-17-2019, 08:09 AM
Trying to get started beekeeping in Alaska, last year was my first year and I loved it, so this year I went with more hives. We normally can not overwinter bees here and have to euthanize the hive at the end of the season, then purchase packages every spring and ship them to Alaska. With temperature & climate changes we may have a better chance of over wintering. We have seen a few of our fellow Alaskans succeeding but that is the exception, although the numbers are increasing.

My plan is to spend at awhile building up my experience, bee yard locations, and hives. Later I will try and over winter my hives. For Alaska our bees last flight is early October and they can fly again late March (maybe early April). So I hope to store my hives in a heated building with lights out. I think I can follow some of Ian Stepplers methods and keep a few hives, and increase my hive count over time. Then breed the queens that are successful with a few other beeks that are trying similar paths to have an Alaskan queen that over winters

I won’t be posting here often, my holy grail is to overwinter bees in Alaska and it may take me years to reach that effort so bear with me

GregV
04-22-2019, 09:03 PM
Here is a fresh video how a guy wintered his bees 190 days non-stop - not a problem.
The goal was - 200 days, but the wintering building could not long stay cool enough (+20C outside).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HYCaIA0NSQ

His experiment bees were locally adapted Carni hybrids (what he said).

So, you need a conditioned and insulated building (not just a heated building).
Run them at steady 45F (5C) that should do.

No need to euthanize the bees.

Michael Bush
04-23-2019, 07:32 AM
I'd talk to those people who are overwintering there and try their method first. The sooner you start trying to overwinter, the sooner you'll figure it out.

Hoff907
04-24-2019, 11:10 PM
Up until recently we were having our last flight in late August and not another flight until April. The season has gotten warmer and the bees better so and now our flights are from October and the last days of March. Over a month less.

It’s getting better.

Hoff907
04-24-2019, 11:12 PM
I'd talk to those people who are overwintering there and try their method first. The sooner you start trying to overwinter, the sooner you'll figure it out.


Yes sir, and it is a small number who are trying, and a lesser number who succeed. But I will try this year and see how it goes

Michael Bush
04-25-2019, 06:05 AM
Talk to the people who are succeeding.

Hoff907
04-28-2019, 09:15 AM
Talk to the people who are succeeding.

Will do

yukonjeff
05-26-2019, 01:20 AM
I have been successfully wintering hives in Western Alaska, I had both my hives survive this past winter. They can survive Alaska just fine. be sure to treat for mites, Use a quilt box of dry grass with a 3" shim, add sugar bricks, A inner cover with a screened feed jar hole, and upper entrance and wrap. Add sugar bricks once a month In the winter.

Can PM me if you have any questions.
Good luck

Hoff907
07-09-2019, 04:04 PM
with our summer going full tilt i have not had much of a chance to check in. My hives, 12 in all, are doing good except for 1. that hive lost its queen, i just don't know what happened. So i added a frame of brood a week and now have several open queen cells on a frame, and I am waiting. we shall see

How is the fire season treating you Jeff

GregV
07-09-2019, 04:16 PM
with our summer going full tilt .....

Curious here.
What are your main nectar sources?
Probably some fire-weed is there.
Anything else?

Hoff907
07-10-2019, 12:44 PM
fireweed, vetch (which is invasive), some clover, and wildflowers that i am ashamed to say i would need to look up

yukonjeff
08-02-2019, 02:27 AM
with our summer going full tilt i have not had much of a chance to check in. My hives, 12 in all, are doing good except for 1. that hive lost its queen, i just don't know what happened. So i added a frame of brood a week and now have several open queen cells on a frame, and I am waiting. we shall see

How is the fire season treating you Jeff

My season is going great. I made three splits this summer, I have not been able to get packages shipped in here anymore, and was down to just one hive two years ago. Have five now.

We had a nice summer for a change, and my bees got to fly most of the flow. Still have a couple weeks left of fireweed. Then treat, and feed for winter.

https://i.imgur.com/fThw19j.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/z0j7Bko.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/juDEBf9.jpg

GregV
08-02-2019, 07:57 AM
My season is going great. I made three splits this summer, I have not been able to get packages shipped in here anymore, .........

This is the blessing in disguise.
It is great that you are forced to start some local bee selection.
I wish I had this (so the people around me stop buying bees shipped from elsewhere).

Hoff907
12-02-2019, 07:36 AM
Went in and checked hives, added candy boards, I have 8 strong hives and one weak hive with two dead. The well house is 46* And about 74% humidity (outside humidity is in the 90’s)

Still very early but they are alive, so that’s something

Michael Bush
12-02-2019, 02:45 PM
If you were from Anchorage on south I would say overwintering bees is pretty doable. I don't know about Fairbanks... Maybe you need to move them South for the winter.

GregV
12-02-2019, 05:34 PM
If you were from Anchorage on south I would say overwintering bees is pretty doable. I don't know about Fairbanks... Maybe you need to move them South for the winter.

Just recently I posted a video link about wintering near Novosibirsk, Russia - USDA 2.
Similar to Fairbanks.
They keep bees - not a problem.
But have to have the right bee.

Hoff907
12-02-2019, 08:59 PM
If you were from Anchorage on south I would say overwintering bees is pretty doable. I don't know about Fairbanks... Maybe you need to move them South for the winter.

I have pondered this. Sure seems like moving south would be simple. But I would like to do it at home if I can

Michael Bush
12-03-2019, 05:57 AM
Greg may be right. Maybe you need to find the right bees for that far North. Certainly in Nebraska overwintering with California bees was not very doable nor Georgia bees...

Hoff907
12-03-2019, 07:51 AM
I am considering ordering Russian queens this year, or at least a few. Local beekeepers have been reporting the best luck with them, some say they are more frugal and start the spring build up a little later. My mentor has succeeded with Carney’s so that is what I have right now.

Later I hope to breed my own queens from the survivors

grozzie2
12-03-2019, 11:36 AM
I have pondered this. Sure seems like moving south would be simple. But I would like to do it at home if I can

Look into what the folks in northern Saskatchewan are doing to winter bees. Fairbanks may be a bit colder, but, probably not a heck of a lot. A beehive wont notice the difference between -40 and -50.

I sat beside a gal from Saskatchewan at the recent BCHPA agm. She talked about getting out to shovel snow after first snowfall. they winter outdoors, and after first real snowfall, they bury the hives with snow. I guess is kinda like an igloo at that point.

She did a presentation on how they manage the bee farm in Saskatchewan, it was fascinating. The video isn't online yet, but it should be in another month or so.

Bottom line, dont listen to the folks that say it cant be done.

Hoff907
12-03-2019, 12:07 PM
Look into what the folks in northern Saskatchewan are doing to winter bees. Fairbanks may be a bit colder, but, probably not a heck of a lot. A beehive wont notice the difference between -40 and -50.

I sat beside a gal from Saskatchewan at the recent BCHPA agm. She talked about getting out to shovel snow after first snowfall. they winter outdoors, and after first real snowfall, they bury the hives with snow. I guess is kinda like an igloo at that point.

She did a presentation on how they manage the bee farm in Saskatchewan, it was fascinating. The video isn't online yet, but it should be in another month or so.

Bottom line, dont listen to the folks that say it cant be done.

I agree, it can be done. My challenge is the length of winter we face. Recent changes have led to it being easier, but we are still faced with the last day they fly being late September and then waiting for late March or early April before they can fly and cleanse. I think that the days in places like Saskatchewan are for a shorter period of time. There is hope that wintering them in a warmer area will lessen the impact of the weather and limit the honey/food they require, but time will tell what works and what don't.

Michael Bush
12-03-2019, 12:09 PM
I agree, your problem isn't so much the cold as the length of winter and the shortness of the days.

GregV
12-04-2019, 07:00 PM
I agree, your problem isn't so much the cold as the length of winter and the shortness of the days.

People are doing it.



Beekeepers Gennady Chugarov and Valery Mararitsa have been raising bees in the experimental apiary for 8 years. Now we decided to enter the industrial level.

“We experimented with different types of bees, Central Russian and Carpathian took root here,” says Valery Mararitsa. “They work great!” There is such an indicator of the quality of honey - a diastatic number. The higher it is, the better the product. If this number is 7, then it is considered to be of high quality. Our northern honey has a diastatic number of 19!

In 2016, the polar beekeepers intend to expand the industrial production of honey in Umba - an apiary, where there will be about 200 hives. And not just an apiary, but the world's only scientific and production base for the development of beekeeping in the North. A land plot of 5 thousand square meters has already been allocated for these purposes. The sales market is primarily the Murmansk region. According to beekeepers, the Kola Peninsula can provide itself with honey.

Auto-translated from here:
https://www.kompravda.eu/daily/26464.7/3333672/

Here is where they are:
52739

And of course, never discount Iceland - the got bees too.

Michael Bush
12-05-2019, 05:24 AM
I'm certainly not saying it can't be done. I'm just pointing out the issues.

GregV
12-05-2019, 07:24 AM
I'm certainly not saying it can't be done. I'm just pointing out the issues.

Sure; understood; the right bee in the US could be of the Russian/Carni origination stock.

A bonus - super long polar days in summer (bees will be working long hours) and very good, ecologically clean forage in general (e.g. fire weed).
Poly-based equipment solves many historic problems too.