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Clairesmom
07-10-2016, 08:13 PM
Title says it all- I have dozens and dozens, possibly hundreds, not even sure how many, Caragana arborescens (aka Siberian peashrub) seedlings which popped up after we coppiced a row of mature caragana shrubs earlier this Spring. I am transplanting some to other places on our farm, but will never have room for all of them.

So, if anyone is close and wants to come and get some, you are welcome to them.

Located in Todd County, MN.

beepro
07-11-2016, 12:51 AM
Are the peas edible?
Any beneficial for human use say like the Moringa trees?

mgolden
07-11-2016, 06:06 AM
Hope you like caragana. They are so aggressive they eventually become the only species.

There is no spray that I know of that will kill them. Have tried 24D, roundup, bleach, diesel fuel, used engine oil. Some success with burning the crown with a tiger torch, used engine oil seems to work somewhat, and aggressive cultivation.

They produce lots of seed and spread every year.

I would never plant another one and wish my parents had never planted them!

Clairesmom
07-12-2016, 05:58 PM
Are the peas edible?
Any beneficial for human use say like the Moringa trees?

beepro, here is an excerpt from the Raw Edible Plants website:

The pretty yellow flowers and very young green pods are edible raw. This is a legume so it is probably wise to eat pods raw in moderation. The older pods are also edible but should be cooked. Both flowers and pods have a pea flavour and are good in salads. The seeds, which are similar to lentils, and can be used in the same way, also produce an edible oil.

We have never consumed them, but should try- we forage a lot of wild edibles on our place, and we certainly have enough caragana to be able to consume some of their products. So far, other than bee forage, our best use for them has been using the seeds as chicken feed.

Clairesmom
07-12-2016, 06:05 PM
mgolden-

These bushes were on our farm when we moved here 12 years ago. In all that time, they have only spread in one very small area where my husband stopped mowing after we planted some windbreaks. We only noticed them in that spot earlier this year and since I like them there :) we are going to leave them.

Might be that your climate is milder than ours and therefore they spread more aggressively in your area? Our winter temps here are frequently -40F. I am a transplanted Floridian- honestly, I can't believe anything even grows here, let alone spreads aggressively, lol.

eta: except Sumac, which I love, but won't have on our place. I have SEEN that spreading aggressively, even as I watched it! And, that is native to our area.

DrChris
07-12-2016, 06:40 PM
MN DNR website lists them as an invasive species, maybe want to think hard about moving it around the state

beepro
07-12-2016, 10:37 PM
I don't know the pigeons, wild quails or even the guinea fouls
will eat the seeds. The migrant use them for food on their
migrating journey. If the quails eat the seeds then you will have
a good habitat there to raise them. It seems like the japanese climbing rose is
easier to control in a pot than these peas.

beepro
07-12-2016, 10:37 PM
I don't know the pigeons, wild quails or even the guinea fouls
will eat the seeds. The migrant use them for food on their
migrating journey. If the quails eat the seeds then you will have
a good habitat there to raise them. It seems like the japanese climbing rose is
easier to control in a pot than these peas.

Clairesmom
07-12-2016, 11:10 PM
DrChris- that's pretty funny, seeing as how the Soil and Water Conservation folks planted them, lol. Those agencies should get together and decide what's what.

beepro
07-12-2016, 11:46 PM
If I planted some in the nearby grass fields and release some
wild quails and pheasants, do you think both can coexist and multiply but
at the same time keeping the peas under control?

Clairesmom
07-12-2016, 11:55 PM
beepro, way over my head :(

Sorry, can't help you there.

The only thing I can say with any certainty is that I have not noticed our pheasants foraging on the caragana seeds. Not saying that they don't, just that I haven't seen them if they do.

We don't have quail here, so I can't even offer any observations about them.