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Barry
01-31-2014, 03:56 PM
In order to keep spammers at bay, I am instituting a policy that keeps the membership to current and active members only. Any user that has never posted to the forum and has been inactive for over 3 months, meaning they have never accessed the forum by logging in, will be deleted. Spammers will register and put hyperlinks to websites in their user profile. Rather than spend an enormous amount of time trying to keep this from happening in the first place, a periodic deletion of inactive users will achieve the same result with little time involved.

If you're not a spammer and you're sitting on the sidelines never using your account, you may find your account deleted. Just a heads up.

Barry
01-31-2014, 03:58 PM
I will leave this thread open for a bit of discussion if needed, but will lock it down eventually.

beeware10
01-31-2014, 05:24 PM
well that should eliminate a high per centage of total users.

RudyT
01-31-2014, 05:25 PM
Thank you for protecting us all from the few!

Kevtater
01-31-2014, 05:34 PM
I understand your problem, but think you should consider waiting longer than a month. Pehaps 2 or 3 months. I don't post frequently, especially in the winter time. Winter time I read a lot of posts, nearly every night. I bet for every active poster you have, there's two "readers" who chime in periodically.

I suppose I can do my reading w/oan account and get the info I need, but if I have to sign up again every 30 days I'm likely to stop posting all together.

Barry
01-31-2014, 05:49 PM
Kevtater -

This only affects members who have never posted a message. You've posted 52, so you would never get deleted, even if a year from now you never made another post. I'm basically giving new members 90 days to post their first message. If they don't by then, their membership gets deleted.

ukewarrior
01-31-2014, 06:09 PM
Do you need to post monthly to stay active or just be logged in?

BeeTech
01-31-2014, 06:20 PM
I mostly just do quick replys. I don't usually go into the forum. will I be safe?

Barry
01-31-2014, 06:22 PM
Good question. Let me back up. I'm taking two items into consideration for deletion. Post count and last day of activity. If an existing member has posted just once, they won't be deleted, ever. I'm starting by deleting existing members that have never posted and have been inactive for over 3 months, meaning they have never logged in. Login gives members access to PM's, Chat, attached images, etc. If they don't login to access that, then their registration means little. They then become suspect as possible spammers.

jrbbees
01-31-2014, 09:22 PM
Some of us travel to places for lengthy periods where there is no internet. Can you stretch that to two months?

whix
01-31-2014, 09:42 PM
Although you have your reasons...

I signed up in 2002 and read the site almost everyday.
When I read, I always note the poster join date and pay more attention to long time member's posts than the newbee's.
I only log in to see the odd picture or ask a question now and then.

I guess I'll be one of the deleted next month.

Barry
01-31-2014, 10:20 PM
I don't know how to state this any clearer than I have.

"If an existing member has posted just once, they won't be deleted, ever."

Why do you guess you'll be deleted when you've got 43 posts to your name?

bluegrass
02-01-2014, 06:18 AM
If an account is "inactive"; how is removing it protecting us from spammers? Wouldn't a spammer need an active account to spam anybody? Also I sometimes will go several months without logging in; in that case is my account at risk of being deemed inactive and getting deleted or are you restricting deleting to accounts with 0 posts?

Barry
02-01-2014, 08:15 AM
"If an existing member has posted just once, they won't be deleted, ever."


If an account is "inactive"; how is removing it protecting us from spammers? Wouldn't a spammer need an active account to spam anybody?
Spammers typically aren't after you or any other member. Their goal is to spam sites with propaganda via hyperlinks. If a spammer gets past GlowHost (Spam-O-Matic) firewall at registration, their account becomes part of our database. These registrations tend to have numerous links within the user profile. These links will get indexed by search engines. I have always manually reviewed registrations looking for the spam. Instead, I'm now going to simply delete inactive registrations every so often. This will clean out any spam accounts. Should a spammer decided to post a message and further broadcast links, Spam-O-Matic automatically puts the post in moderation where it will have to be approved first. They get deleted as well as the account and get added to the IP block.

Barry
02-01-2014, 01:12 PM
Sorry, I just realized that all the posts were waiting to be approved since this is a moderated thread, yet I still saw them and replied to them, even though no one else could see them. Take that into consideration when reading these posts.

Oldtimer
02-01-2014, 01:22 PM
Oh. I was thinking Wow! Can't believe how little people actually read. ;)

Ian
02-01-2014, 01:43 PM
"If an existing member has posted just once, they won't be deleted, ever."

Soo,... if I don't post for one month, will I get deleted? Ha ha ha,
Sorry, I had to ask that question once again !

Relax fellas, if someone takes the time to register, you'd think they are motivated enough to post something. Otherwise, what's the point?

I have no idea what a spam is , but, good job Barry keeping this site clean!

Barry
02-01-2014, 02:16 PM
Here's a typical spam registration. I changed the http to httq so the hyperlink doesn't work. A search of the IP shows it's from VietNam.

User Name: AidanMcna
Email Address : [email protected]
Birthday : April 11, 1971
Referrer: N/A
IP Address: 203.210.197.45

Biography : The writer is called Maribeth Elkin. Her friends say it isn't good
for my child but what she loves doing is playing croquet but she's thinking on starting something
totally new. Auditing has been her day job
for ttime and it is somethig she really savor.
For quite some time she's experienced Iowa.
If excess weight and fat to find out more check out his website:
httq://www.soupnbagel.co.kr/xe/?document_srl=2040406
Location: : Germany, Aurach
Occupation : Coin vending and amusement machine servicer repairer
Homepage : 28
# Years in Beekeeping :
Plant Hardiness Zone :

Ian
02-01-2014, 02:24 PM
how does a registered spammer actually put your list at risk?

Oldtimer
02-01-2014, 02:32 PM
They put users at risk.

Some innocent folks think hey it's on Barry's site must be kosher, then get themselves and their computer exposed to who knows what.

Barry
02-01-2014, 02:37 PM
Well, when you're getting upwards of 600 of these everyday, you better have a good way to deal with them or you'll get buried. Just look at the stats on the forum homepage. 468,814 Spammers Denied Registration since implementing GlowHost. My role as the admin is to keep the site content free from those that would try and use it for ulterior purposes. If these spam registrations make it through, they get indexed by search engines to increase their exposure. They're more of a nuisance and time waster than anything else.

Rader Sidetrack
02-01-2014, 02:39 PM
For an example of some spammers efforts at trying to get Beesource to link to their pages, click the link below to see the results of using the Beesource Search (on the home page) for "puma shoes":

https://www.beesource.com/search-results/?cx=000967076246347094819%3Akhgkbgj0w7w&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=puma+shoes+&sa=Search

Note that the 4 links in the highlighted box are legitimate ad links, but the hundreds of links below the highlighted box that start with "www.beesource.com/forums " are spam links. They don't actually link anywhere at this time, but the spammers certainly tried hard. :eek:

When I first found some of the "puma shoes" links by accident, I was searching for something else but some of the puma links showed up in the search results as well. I then tried a direct search and was amazed at all those links.

Barry
02-01-2014, 02:51 PM
Fortunately with GlowHost now, almost all of these registrations get deleted at the point of registration rather than after they actually get a legitimate registration.

Beetruk
02-02-2014, 04:55 AM
I already feel safer.

awesomejasmine
02-15-2014, 03:26 PM
Well looks like a good place for my first post reply. Rick

Agreed!

Jodie Joiner
02-25-2014, 03:16 PM
Good job, Barry. Guess I'm safe now?