How deep are your deeps?

[brac]

Originally Posted by WI-beek

does anyone supplier make frames a 1/8 inch shorter so you can make boxes 9 1/2 deep and use a 1 x 10 instead of a 1 x 12. Seems really stupid to make deeps 9 5/8 so you need a 1 x 12.

Looking at the humble abodes website, they will make any size you want,
http://humbleabodesinc.com/index.php...products_id=17

[beebze]

Well I learned something today. I haven't yet used Sawn before but maybe some time in my life I will. (sp checker doesn't like the word)

The one thing you have to consider is placing foundation in your 1/8" smaller frame. I guess it depends on the what foundation you decide to use.

I use cleats on my boxes, makes them easier to pick them up. When I made my own boxes I used a 1 x 12 and the extra piece I would make a cleat out of or other things. One thing about pine, there is not much wasted.

You should stick with the industry standard. Will make it easier down the road.

Andy

[Tom G. Laury]

For sure there is resawn lumber. Spell checker no like.

[brac]

Lack of an industry standard is what caused me to start this post.
B&B honey catalog list a 9 5/8" hive body
Humble abodes list a 9 1/2" hive body
and a 50 year plus commerical beek suggested I go 9 7/8"

I am assumeing that all deep frames are 9 1/8" so are the rabbits different is the bee space different?

[Dave W]

Somewhere I have read that 5/8" rabbet is "standard". That will make the beespace above the frames 1/4". Some use 3/4" and have 3/8" above the frames.

Frames come in many sizes too. They are not all 9-1/8".

[AR Beekeeper]

With a 5/8 in. rabbet the standard depth for a deep is 9 19/32. The measurements are from an old edition of the Hive and the Honey Bee. My experience is that if a person makes non-standard equipment in the long run it is nothing but a headache. Pass the aspirin, please!

[brac]

Ok then can someone post the "standard" including the rabbit dimension.
I called the place (humble abodes)that I will be buying frames from and asked them to send me a sample. So I can check bee space once I get the right size.

[jbw]

http://www.beesource.com/files/10frlang.pdf

[WI-beek]

Originally Posted by AR Beekeeper

With a 5/8 in. rabbet the standard depth for a deep is 9 19/32. The measurements are from an old edition of the Hive and the Honey Bee. My experience is that if a person makes non-standard equipment in the long run it is nothing but a headache. Pass the aspirin, please!

You are right, it only would lead to a headache. That said though, there does seem to still be a lack of a standard. My friend inherited bee equipment from his father. It was all in the garage attic and I helped him clean it up...........

Anyhow I talked with his dad and he told me that he had been given stuff from a couple different beekeepers when they decided to quit keepeing bees. Some boxes dont line up with otheres. Some seem to be 1/4 inch different in box width or so. Some have the bee space on bottom of frames instead of top. I noticed this right away and read about the difference in a book back then and came to the conclusion that the reses was better on top because you would not crush bee when stacking boxes during an inspection. I told my friend about this but he is not the brightest bulb inthe house and informed me the other day that some boxes were different in this way on his beehives and I just shook my head at his stupidity. One of those guys where its just better to follow along and say as little as possible, agree rather than disagree or lose your sanity trying to deal with there stupidity. Anybody actually keep friends like this besides me?

Then there is this humble abodies. They make a 9 n 1/2 half in box. It seems the rest of there boxes are standard though. They must be saving a buck or two. I guess I dont know why Im rambling on about this but if you make your own boxes and stay consistant it can be the end of the world to have a box a 1/8in shorter. I also thought bee space was 3/8 to 1/2 inch and not 1/4 inch. Myabe my memory is already failing in my mid age.

Does anyone have a link to video of making frames? Not putting them together but sawing them. I would like to see how they do it. I alway have trouble trying to picture woodwork in my head when reading it.

Ok, Ill stop rambling now.

[AR Beekeeper]

When I started beekeeping I made boxes with a bottom bee space because a friend made his that way. Now I have a storage building full of boxes imposible to sell because everyone else uses the standard top bee space. On top of that I like to "piddle around" with different types of boxes so I have box after box of non standard size. I had fun with them but now I pay the price.