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  1. #1
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    Default 3 - Legged stool of swarm traps

    Simplified version of my view of the essentials of swarm traps. comments welcomed.

    3 elements of swarm traps.pdf

    Phil in Fremont

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    Looks good to me, thereís a lot of things in there that I follow. Now just get the bees to read it and youíll be in.
    Rod

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    Thanks very handy. What do you mean by Downwind? From what?

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    Default Re: 3 - Legged stool of swarm traps

    I would take it as downwind from the wind. In other words, opposite side of prevailing winds in your location. J

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    yes, opposite from the prevailing wind.
    This helps, I think, in several ways.
    - the breeze doesn't washout and dilute the scent of the box.
    - Its easier for bees to land and get into the box, either for scouting or when they move in.
    - The eddy currents around the box will carry a stronger sent further down wind, hopefully letting more scouts finding your box.

    Phil

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    Downwind-thanks good points.

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    I realized i posted the wrong version. Updated a bit based on input from all of you. I made it a bit more neutral based on the many different methods out there. Feel free to use it as you see fit. 3 legged trap4 copy.pdf

    Cheers, Phil in Fremont

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    Default Re: 3 - Legged stool of swarm traps

    Thanks, a handy checklist.

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    >essentials of swarm traps. comments welcomed.

    Are you the Fremont guy that bought Beemax hives from me?

    OK, here goes, you asked for it.

    LGO or S. C.. Definitely helpful but not essential. I catch a few a year in dead hives and junk un-baited.
    30- 40 liter box....not essential, I catch lots in five frame nucs.
    Open space.....totally not essential. I fill all of mine full.
    Frames with starter strips.... used them once and never again. They fell apart when moved and I believe in all worker comb
    Vents for moving....none of my bait hives have them. In a very hot climate might be more necessary. I close the disk, drive them for an hour or two to their new site and open them up.
    Entrance down wind. Nope also. good but not essential.
    Caught one this year at my house in a wind tunnel area facing sideways to the wind.
    Old brood comb. VERY helpful but not essential. Bees have been moving into empty cavities for millions of years.
    Near active hives. Helpful but certainly not essential. (except that there must be hives near enough casting swarms to catch)
    Height 4-5 feet. Few of mine are placed over 3' high. Tables, wall tops, decks. Height helpful but not essential.
    Morning or Aft. sun, Noon shade. Nope again. I trap one on a full sun all day wall top that catches beauties ever year.

    Charlies just again this morning accused me of bragging on Beesource. So to make him correct my expertise is based on decades of trapping experience, 59 catches last year and 70 this year. OK Charlies....tell them all you know about this braggart.

    This late swarm moved into a stack of frames that had the combs solar melted off them. No black comb, no lure, but lots of empty space.



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    >Charlies just again this morning accused me of bragging on Beesource.

    "It ain't braggin' if you done it"--Dizzy Dean
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    Default Re: 3 - Legged stool of swarm traps

    Iím in a constant state of amazement at Oliverís beekeeping prowess.
    The Oxen is slow, but the earth is patient!

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