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  1. #41
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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    The problem is zero RnD into bee disease. In the livestock industry we have pretty much a treatment for every ailment. With bees we just shrug our shoulders and let them die

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    Ian = how did you apply the Fumigillan?


    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    Ian = how did you apply the Fumigillan?


    Crazy Roland
    stored syrup

    Before you say degradation, let me make note that my nosema species has completely shifted over to Ceranae

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    What would it take to do a comparison between syrup and "Red Ball of Fire"?

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    I find Fumagillin is fumagillin regardless how it's administered.
    Are you finding efficacy in the RBF ?

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    Only used RBoF once, saw DRAMATIC effect.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    Why only once?

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    Because it solved the problem.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    Novice at Nosema, could you tell me what the RBF treatment is and also I was told there is no treatment for Nosema Cerana that Fumigillan did not work for Cerana only Apis. Have I been miss informed.?

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    Default Re: Nosema Sequential Sampling

    Don't know which Nosema we had, but it killed 90 percent of the hives for 2 years. RBoF is a novel method of Fumigilan that we believe controls the release much better than in syrup. With syrup, some gets stored away and gets used at a possibly sub therapeutic level at a later time. We believe it is better to apply at a constant level, for slightly longer than it takes for the spores to pass thru the digestive tract. It does no good if the levels drop to below therapeutic before the digestive cycle is finished.

    I could be mis-informed, but did not worry about it. We cured our problem.

    Crazy Roland

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