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  1. #41
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    Default Re: Requeening honey bee colonies without dequeening

    The one that emerged on June 1st into a world where the days were getting longer. The queen after June 21 would emerge into a world where the days were getting shorter and would not experience that change. Honestly I suspect a newly hatched queen lays like a "spring queen" and the summer solstice is a convenient point to reference when requeening in the summer. No?

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    Default Re: Requeening honey bee colonies without dequeening

    Quote Originally Posted by dlbrightjr View Post
    The one that emerged on June 1st into a world where the days were getting longer. The queen after June 21 would emerge into a world where the days were getting shorter and would not experience that change. Honestly I suspect a newly hatched queen lays like a "spring queen" and the summer solstice is a convenient point to reference when requeening in the summer. No?
    Yes. We also have to remember location, location, location.

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    Default Re: Requeening honey bee colonies without dequeening

    We are talking about the age of the queen with her laying ability. Whether or not she is a before or after June queen is still a young queen. Let's say you have a summer dearth coming after May then raising these queens may not be properly fed. This will have an affect on how the hive overwintered. Yes, location also take into consideration here and so is the specie of bees you keep. The early October raised queens only had a few short months to pack in the hive resources before the cold winter sets in. They behaved just like a Spring hive trying to expand but with the big fat winter bees. Along with the hive population growth so are the mites (if you don't clean out the mites) that will have a big impact on how the hive survive this winter. Somehow if you can removed the mites off the colony then it will be a normal winter bees build up. Without the mites to bother them all colonies survived this past winter. That is why I have concluded that a queen raised after the solstice here can carry the hive overwinter into next Spring. This is my 3rd year into raising the summer and late Autumn queens.
    Don't mix foreign bees into a virgin hive. She might get balled 100% of the time! When will you ever learn, huh?

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    Default Re: Requeening honey bee colonies without dequeening

    Quote Originally Posted by AR Beekeeper View Post
    A May queen will do just as well laying the fall/winter bees as one raised after June 21, if she is in a healthy, well fed colony.

    The solstice is just another day, ignore the "gimics" and raise well nourished virgins from good stock, and furnish healthy drones for her to mate with.
    I wonder where this idea of solstice and queens comes from. Is there a paper somewhere, or did someone dream this up to fit their dogmatic approach to beekeeping. I disagree with the whole idea.

  5. #45
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    Default Re: Requeening honey bee colonies without dequeening

    Michael, G.M. Doolittle observed this and references it in his book(s). Mel Disselkoen from Michigan is a proponent and teaches such in his material. Doolittle was not a "gimic" kind of guy in my estimation.

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    Default Re: Requeening honey bee colonies without dequeening

    My queens are mated from about 3 weeks before the solstice to a month after. I see no difference in them. Not in pattern, ability to winter, or longevity.

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    Default Re: Requeening honey bee colonies without dequeening

    Where I get it from is a guy named Miller.
    He muttered something about CC Miller the day he was telling me all about the post-solstice thing.
    Guess I messed up by believing him. Turns out that all the people in the club I'm in don't really know anything at all including myself.
    Am pretty certain that bees buzz but not so sure.
    Internet credibility is an oxymoron

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