I get the gist of it well enough to move forward. I think our fall flow was closer to the month of september and first frost early october and so in the end there is no cookie cutter method untill I watch a few years and put what you said to my area.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to respond to my question. It all helps. My friend is a tipper also but can not tip my hives because they are made out of every kind of wood known to man and so the wares do not all weigh the same. Last year I just picked a date and lifted each box guessed what I was missing, added three gal and a sugar block and called it a day. My hives were sub standard size wise and so now I am wanting to graduate to the big boy hives and judge well enough to not feed also. I will get there.