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    Default Re: Mann Lake rep here on BSource?

    Quote Originally Posted by LanduytG View Post
    Took all of 2 minutes to find something that will control with precision.
    Greg they use to be expensive now they are dirt cheap, I do have reservations on whether they are just another problem though.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Wow, didn't you give instructions on how to burn a hive for AFB? Does the honey put out the fire? Will a tire burn? Probably not if you use a match.
    Does the honey put out the fire? The proportions of flammables, wax and wood, to inflamables, honey is so great that the honey gets burnt, carmalized, but it itself does not burn w/ a flame like a candle.

    You can burn honey, but you cannot set it on fire, as you seemed to be saying in your Post. Sure, honey will burn, but it isn't a fire hazard, which is what you wrote. Your body is more of a fire hazard than honey is.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Default Re: Mann Lake rep here on BSource?

    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    LB, did you buy this tank new? I have had two MAXANT Bottling tanks for years and have never had either the old Heat Controls stick or over heat.
    Where did he say it was a Maxant? Why would he be looking for a MannLake rep if it were a Maxant?
    Brian Cardinal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Greg they use to be expensive now they are dirt cheap, I do have reservations on whether they are just another problem though.
    I would not hesitate to use and electronic controller. These days they are very reliable. This one is fancy and has alarm outputs too. I'm sure some others do too, I just didn't look through all of them.
    http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...&products_id=4

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Your body is more of a fire hazard than honey is.
    I don't think so. My body is 98% water unless I have had a couple three Manhattans.
    Brian Cardinal
    Zone 5a, Practicing non-intervention beekeeping

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    44 years, been commercial, outfits up to 4000 hives, now 120 hives and 200 nucs as a hobby, selling bees. T (mostly).

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    For under $50 this is a great little unit.
    http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=106

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Where did he say it was a Maxant? Why would he be looking for a MannLake rep if it were a Maxant?
    Where did I ask lakebilly anything about his Mann Lake tank being a MAXANT? I don't know why you are even asking me questions about something I was communicating directly to LB (read lakebilly). I was asking lakebilly, not you. And I was suggesting to him a way to make his situation better. So I don't see why you need to jump all over me for trying to be helpful.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Quote Originally Posted by LanduytG View Post
    I would not hesitate to use and electronic controller. These days they are very reliable.
    I have used a bunch of them but it is like anything else, some suck and some are great.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Is the heater a Chromalox?
    Do you have the 110v or 220v model?
    The Chromalox are a higher end heater, but they all fail in time, especially in tap water.
    Jason Wolthuis '13, z5b, ~20 hives. KTBH's and Langs. TF
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    You're a glass half empty sort of guy, aren't you, Brian?
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Quote Originally Posted by sqkcrk View Post
    Where did I ask lakebilly anything about his Mann Lake tank being a MAXANT?
    Sorry Mark, I did misread your post. Half empty, half full, doesn't make a difference it is still half. It only makes a difference to a liberal arts major.
    Brian Cardinal
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakebilly View Post
    I am not happy & need a heater for my bottler.
    I have two that I took out of my MAXANT tanks so I could replace them w/ new ones. I think someone else has first dibs on them, when I can lay my hands on them again. But, if they only want one I could send you the other one. Or you could order one from MAXANT and be up and running again before the weekend. That's what I would do.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    Half empty, half full, doesn't make a difference it is still half.
    Speaks volumes.
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acebird View Post
    My body is 98% water unless I have had a couple three Manhattans.
    Manhattans or not, if your body is 98% water, that could explain a few anomalies.

    According to the Mayo Clinic ...
    Water is your body's principal chemical component and makes up about 60 percent of your body weight. Every system in your body depends on water. For example, water flushes toxins out of vital organs, carries nutrients to your cells and provides a moist environment for ear, nose and throat tissues.

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-li...r/art-20044256

    University of Rochester Medical Center version ...
    Need a reason to drink water? Water is essential to good health—and life. Up to 60 percent of an adult’s body weight and about 74 percent of a newborn’s body weight is water, making it the largest single substance in the human body.

    http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encycl...ContentID=1499
    Note that part about newborn babies having a much higher water percentage than adults!
    Graham
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    And now you know why alot of honey packers use hot water heat from a boiler, modulated by a zone valve or capillary controlled valve, to heat their honey. The boiler temp is set fairly low, and the water is circulated in pipes around the tank. I helped build these setups, and heated millions of pounds of honey without a problem, or a PLC.

    Crazy Roland

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    Mark, I did buy new.

    PLCNUT. not sure, I will look @ it. I got my honey extracted & hopped a tractor.

    http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=106
    How would this unit connect to heater? It is a 110.

    As I have stated; I am in a service oriented business. I have to deal w/issues all the time of failed whatevers. I don't think it is too much to ask from someone that has gotten a lot of my money to look @ the situation & say , "it hasn't happened b4, he a loyal customer, send it back we'll have a look @ it, but you may have to buy another."

    I have way too much to do to read all these posts that have nill to do w/moving forward. thanks y'all for the input....got hay to tedder....bees to dust....lawn to mow....etc.
    Last edited by lakebilly; 08-26-2014 at 05:34 AM.
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    Did you consider asking for someone w/ more authority than the person answering the phone?

    "bees to dust". Huh? What are you dusting bees w/ and for?
    Mark Berninghausen #youmatter

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    Mark. I did not, & should have back when it happened last season. I get focused on so many things I lose track of time & spent conversations.
    I am going to sugar dust my bees. I have wet boxes & crystallized honey supers that I am going to put on @ some point.

    My uncapper developed a leak last year & 47 medium supers sat in my shop till I put 32 of them on hives I could get to in Feb. saved my bees. I had zero honey last year & no time to fix my uncapper till two weeks ago, & install new motor on my extractor. I am a shinola shuffling disaster dealing captain of chaos. I moved, had surgery & now have a hernia....axe me what day it is or what my name is.
    Rmns 1:16/Prv.3:5,6/ Beegan BK May 09/ Zone 5b
    I have NOT failed. I have only found many many ways that do not work!

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